image1A big welcome to author Sarah Morris who has joined us today as part of the book tour for In the Footsteps of the Six Wives of Henry VIII co-authored with Natalie Grueninger.

Congratulations to both Sarah and Natalie on the release of their new book. Their first book In the Footsteps of Anne Boleyn was excellent so this new book is a must-read!

Giveaway – Amberley Publishing is offering a copy of In the Footsteps of the Six Wives of Henry VIII to one lucky Anne Boleyn Files visitor. All you have to do is comment below this post stating which Tudor place associated with Henry VIII’s six wives you’d like to visit. Please leave your comment by midnight on 23rd March 2016. One comment will be picked at random and the winner contacted for their details.

Over to Sarah…

I love a good adventure! Little could I have believed that perhaps the most overlooked of all of Henry’s wives was about to take me on my most thrilling odyssey yet. During the course of my research into the early life of Anne of Cleves, I came across a chance mention of a set of carved, oak panels, currently in situ in St Leonard’s Church, Old Warden, Bedfordshire. Scanty references and the odd photo from previous amateur time travellers had been logged online, along with the tantalising reference that these panels had been salvaged from ‘Anne of Cleves’ chapel in Bruges’.

St Leonard’s Church, Bedfordshire

Although Pevsner had dismissed the claim outright, stating in his book, Buildings of England: Bedfordshire, Huntingdon and Peterborough (p.131), ‘What has Anne of Cleves got to do with Bruges?’; I at least knew the answer to that question and was too intrigued to let the statement pass me by without further investigation. Perhaps this local folklore was also a clue to her long-lost lodgings in the city?

During the atrocious northern winter of 1539/40, Anne had passed through Bruges on the journey from her homeland to England. She was to marry Henry VIII and become the capricious king’s fourth wife. The visit was fleeting; the royal entourage staying just one night in early December 1539. The sole reference to the event in the local archives was that a merchant had been paid by the city to deliver wine to ‘the daughter of Cleves being within the city to travel to England in December’. And so, whilst the hunt for Anne’s lodgings in Bruges got underway, once I had returned from Belgium, I turned my attention to the panels. Here began a whole sequence of synchronicities that surely must make a person question whether indeed unfathomable and invisible forces are sometimes at work behind the scenes.

The Anne of Cleves Heraldic Panels
The Anne of Cleves Heraldic Panels

One of my first stops was the local archive in Bedford. Unbeknownst to me, as I spoke with the archivist over the telephone, a local historian, who had a particular interest in Old Warden and its nineteenth century squire, overheard one side of the conversation. Sometime after the event, Christine (Hill) would recount how her ears had pricked up with inevitable interest at the mention of ‘Anne of Cleves’ and ‘Old Warden Church’. Within weeks we would be together in person, pouring over the carvings in question amidst the quiet stillness of St Leonard’s Church; Christine sharing her knowledge of Lord Ongley, who had apparently salvaged the carvings from the continent, and me, of Anne of Cleves and her connection with Bruges – and the possible contenders for her city lodgings.

Through Christine, I soon found out that the set of twenty-two panels of three separate designs (see images) had been examined over the last 130 or so years by various professional and amateur commentators alike. Over and above Pevsner’s outright dismissal, disparate conclusions had been drawn about their origins, with France, the Low Countries and England all being variously mentioned as the country of origin, whilst the dating of the panels ranged from the sixteenth and eighteenth centuries to nineteenth century replicas. I couldn’t help but think of Churchill’s phrase; it seems we had a ‘riddle wrapped in an enigma’ on our hands, and it was fast becoming clear to me that enthusiasm alone would not unlock the secrets of the carvings. We needed to bring to bear all the latest scientific and historical expertise if we were to have a hope of getting to the bottom of the mystery.

Anne of Cleves’s Tomb in Westminster Abbey showing two of the three heraldic emblems found in the St Leonard’s Church carvings.
Anne of Cleves’s Tomb in Westminster Abbey showing two of the three heraldic emblems found in the St Leonard’s Church carvings.

Whilst pondering how to bring this about, we had a breakthrough. Christine uncovered the fact that the three different designs on the panels were identical to those oval cartouches carved into Anne of Cleve’s tomb in Westminster Abbey. As far as we know, this connection had been lost to living memory, and for the first time we were able to sweep conjecture aside. There was now no doubt that these carved panels were directly related to England’s queen. It was a significant breakthrough, but by this time, I knew one thing for sure – I was way out of my depth! With this in mind, I contacted Jonathan Foyle, experienced architectural historian and ex-curator of Hampton Court Palace, who many of us will have enjoyed watching pore over the foundation stones of various Tudor houses and palaces in Channel 4’s Time Team. I needed to know the origins of the carvings; were they contemporary or copies? Jonathan’s interest was piqued, having only recently researched and placed a discarded oak bed as being the wedding bed of Henry VII and Elizabeth of York. Another carved interior with unqualified provenance was definitely his kind of problem.

Dr Jonathan Foyle
Dr Jonathan Foyle

Some weeks later, Christine and I had raised the funds to allow the project to proceed. Our little team, which by that time had expanded to include not only Jonathan, but also Helen Hughes, a specialist in the forensics of early historic decoration, arrived at the church on one rainy, March morning in 2015. We were nervously expectant as Helen donned her magnifying glasses in order to identify, and scrape away, tiny deposits of ‘grunge’ from the panels. We hoped that these samples would contain microscopic flecks of paint consistent with pigments used in the sixteenth century. At the same time, Jonathan pored over the visual evidence.

Disappointingly, initial results indicated that the panels looked to be later copies; the wood was too fresh and there was no sign of the paint pigments that would have indicated a sixteenth century origin. For a time, our quest seemed to be at an end and we reluctantly concluded that they must have been revivalist copies, made for an eccentric English gentleman, who had more than a passing interest in Tudor history.

Then, no more than eight weeks later, a second synchronicity occurred – and it changed everything. It caused us fundamentally to question our original findings, throwing a whole new perspective on the likely origin and history of the panels. A separate, single panel came up for auction at Bonhams in May 2015. The panel was identical to one of the designs in St Leonard’s Church; an oval cartouche containing the AC monogram, surmounted by a coronet. It was an unbelievable co-incidence! The appearance of the panel opened up new vistas of possibility. New visual evidence of the state of the panel would take us down a different road, and if Jonathan’s hypothesis was correct, it would mean that the panels were indeed linked directly to the personal domestic environment of Anne of Cleves, and if so, the find would be extraordinarily rare. The enigma finally began to surrender its secrets…

The full story and its conclusions can be found in, In the Footsteps of the Wives of Henry VIII, in a section dedicated to ‘The Anne of Cleves Panels’.

Do make sure that you visit the other stops on Sarah’s and Natalie’s tour. Here is the schedule:
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About the Authors

Natalie Grueninger
Natalie Grueninger

Natalie Grueninger is a researcher, writer and educator, who lives in Sydney with her husband and two children.
She graduated from The University of NSW in 1998 with a Bachelor of Arts, with majors in English and Spanish and Latin American Studies and received her Bachelor of Teaching from The University of Sydney in 2006.
Natalie has been working in public education since 2006 and is passionate about making learning engaging and accessible for all children.

In 2009 she created On the Tudor Trail (, a website dedicated to documenting historic sites and buildings associated with Anne Boleyn and sharing information about the life and times of Henry VIII’s second wife. Natalie is fascinated by all aspects of life in Tudor England and has spent many years researching this period.
Her first non-fiction book, co-authored with Sarah Morris, In the Footsteps of Anne Boleyn, was published by Amberley Publishing and released in the UK in late 2013. Natalie and Sarah have just finished the second book in the series, In the Footsteps of the Six Wives of Henry VIII, due for publication in the UK on 15 March 2016 and on Amazon US on 19 May 2016.

You’ll find Natalie on Facebook (, Twitter ( and Instagram (themosthappy78).

Sarah Morris
Sarah Morris

Sarah is a creative soul, as well as an eternal optimist who generally prepares for the worst! She is an advocate of following the heart’s deepest desire as a means to finding peace and happiness. To this end, her writing is a creative expression of her joy of both learning and educating.

Drawn by an inexplicable need to write down the story of Anne Boleyn’s innocence, she published the first volume of her debut novel, Le Temps Viendra: a novel of Anne Boleyn in 2012; the second volume followed in 2013. That same year, her first non-fiction book, co-authored with Natalie Grueninger called, In the Footsteps of Anne Boleyn, was also published. Hopelessly swept away by an enduring passion for Tudor history and its buildings, her latest book, the second of the In the Footsteps series entitled, In the Footsteps of the Six Wives of Henry VIII, is due to be published by Amberley Publishing in the UK on 15th March 2016 and in the US on 19th May.

She lives in rural Oxfordshire with her beloved dog and travelling companion, Milly.

You’ll find Sarah at, or via her blog, This Sceptred Isle:

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109 thoughts on “The Anne of Cleves Panels – a Riddle Wrapped in an Enigma”
  1. i would love to visit Thornbury Castle again. My honeymoon was spent here in The room that Henry and Anne stayed in whilst on progress. Hampton Court Palace is another fab but I would like to see Rochford Hall which is said to be the place that Henry proposed to Anne.

  2. Awesome post!! Really interested in finding out more about the panels and enjoying the rest of the book. Love reading anything by Natalie and Sarah

  3. Great article, look forward to the book! I’d love to visit Hampton Court, but am now adding St. Leonard’s church to the list!

  4. I have always wanted to go to Hever castle . I have always been fascinated by Anne Boleyn and I think that by walking through Never castle I can get closer to her in a way. Especially after having read Le Temps Viendra.

  5. Great post! I was lucky enough to visit Hever and stay at Thornbury Castle but I am inspired to hear about more possibilities to experience through reading “In the Footseps of Henry VIII’s Six Wives”. I will also enjoy hearing the rest of the story of the Anne of Cleves panels.

  6. Most definitely Hampton court for its beauty and history with all Henry’s wives although I would love to see them all. Living in the states I visit England through your books thank you for my visits in my mind

  7. What an incredible coincidence finding the other cartouche…I cannot wait to hear what the findings and stipulations might be. Thank you, as always, for taking on another wonderful adventure. I cannot wait to read about further discovery!

  8. Id love to visit ALL the places associated with Henry VIII’s Six Wives! If i had to choose id say Westminister Abby, Hatfield House and Hever Castle to name a few! Im facinated by so many people from this time: Henry VIII, Anne Boelyn, Mary Tudor and Elizabeth I. I can never hear enough about any and all of them! Truly amazing people from history.

  9. Id love to visit ALL of the places associated with Henry VIII’s Six Wives!!! Im facinated by Henry and Anne’s love and their child Elizabeth I. If i had to choose Id say Westminister abby, Hatfield House and Hever Castle. I love all the history from this time. Can never read enough about it!!! (:

  10. Fantastic giveaway! I would love to visit St James’ Palace where Anne Boleyn stayed the night after her coronation but of course sadly, it is closed to the public.

  11. Can’t wait to read this book! I love Tudor period history and read about it all the time. I’d live to get the chance to visit Whitehall Palace even though just the banquet hall remains. Henry spent do much time here with his wives and died there.

  12. I would love to visit Hampton Court Palace and the other royal Palaces. Tudor History is fantastic and you can strike up a conversation with anyone and they have some understanding of the period. By far the best period in history of the world!

  13. I’ve been to Hampton Court, but would love to go back to spend more time. You know, do a less “touristy” kind of visit.

  14. I’m so intrigued by Henry VIII and all of his wives and children, that it is hard to choose one place. Guess first on my list would be Hever Castle.

  15. I would love to visit Hampton Court! To go from being Cardinal Wolsey’s to the King’s own its history is so vivid! One of my great grandmothers own brother was a ward of the Cardinal after their father was put in a Psych hospital so he may have lived here with the Cardinal himself! And the architecture in and out of the palace also shows how the Tudor times impacted all aspects of society! Even after Anne’s untimely demise Henry forgot to remove at least one trace of her and it still exists at this palace today! Such a fascinating palace indeed!

  16. Kimbolton Castle, of course! I would like to have a semblance of what Catherine felt at Henry’s betrayal of her, and how she must have felt during the last few years of her life as an exile from court.

  17. Being of British birth and living in America for 60 some odd years I would love to see Hever Palace that Anne Boleyn selected for her daughter, Elizabeth, to be raised in

  18. Have been fascinated with henry Vlll & his wives for years. Would love to delve a bit further with this book!

  19. I would love to visit Hever Castle. To just walk the halls and rooms and get the feel to wonder…what was Anne Boleyn’s life like in the early years? What did she see as she looked out the windows? How she must have been full of life and had hopes & dreams of romance and a happy life, just like any of us.

  20. I’d love to visit Hever Castle for sure! Can’t wait to read the book and I love this website! 🙂

  21. If l had a chance, I’d love to visit Hever Castle or Kimbolton. I feel the most drawn to Katherine of Aragon and, of course, Anne Boleyn. Although if I could I’d visit every single place that all of them ever visited!! Excellent post, thanks to all and congratulations

  22. I would love to visit Margaret of Austria’s palace in Melechen, Belgium- The Hof Van Savoye where Anne Boleyn spent time as a teenager, as a first time lady-in waiting in training. I’d love to see one of the first places Anne would have been formally educated:)

  23. I would love to visit either Heber or Whitehall. I am from the states so any of them would be wonderful.

  24. I would love to visit them all but Hever would be my favourite and also Kimbolton because although I find Anne Boeyn most interesting I do have a lot of respect for Catherine of Aragon. Also Katharine Parr so I would love to visit Sudely Castle too. A most fascinating period of history.They would all never have thought that hundreds of years on so many would be so interested in their life stories.

  25. I love history but Henry VIII and his wives have always attracted my attention and I have been making researches about his kingdom for a long time. Thanks for this article, this book would be very useful for me.

  26. Suddley castle -Anne Boleyn and Katharine Parr walked in the grounds and Katharine buried in the 15th century church – a brilliant idea to write a book on this ladies as how many times do we visit walk or drive passed old churches and buildings totally ignorant of the history and Royal medieval connections.

  27. If I had the opportunity, I’d love to visit Hever Castle. Any opportunity to learn more about
    Anne Boleyn and the time in which she lived would be wonderful!

  28. I just love it when I hear about a recently rediscovered piece of history! It makes me feel like we are so lucky to have unearthed another piece from the puzzle that is the past. There are things we will never know for certain, like what did Anne Boleyn’s voice sound like? Who was the best dancer at court? How did it feel when Katherine of Aragon and her ladies walked down the halls and swept by? These things we unfortunately can only bring to life in our imaginations, but if we can keep making and unearthing discoveries such as what Natalie and Sarah did with the Anne of Cleve’s panels, we are one step closer to knowing all it is possible to know. (I believe even more discoveries will be made in the future. I don’t for one second think that we know everything it is possible to know about the Tudors right now.) Each new discovery brings an understanding to the things we did not realize before. And how incredibly fortunate are we, when history decides to reveal a piece of itself in our lifetime! (I’m still hoping someone will discovery more Anne Boleyn portraits somewhere).

    The place I want to visit the most is Hever Castle. I am planning a trip to England next year and am going to try to stay a few nights at Hever. I would love to experience what waking up at Hever feels like, to wake up and know you’re at Hever, look out the window and realize this is what people used to see when they woke up too. To know that these are the very grounds that the Boleyn’s and others have walked on, maybe on early morning strolls, I would go for an early morning walk myself, maybe imagining walking down the same paths where Anne and Henry once walked, or Anne and George walked and laughed.

    I am excited about your book. It sounds fascinating. Anne Boleyn is my favourite of Henry’s wives but I find all of them interesting and am interested to know more about them. I look forward to reading it!

  29. Hmm…. Well, I’ve been to the Tower & Hampton Court (although I’d love, love, love to go back as it’s been almost 25 years since I was there), so…. Suddley, maybe? Or maybe just plan a tour of ALL the locations, using this book as a guide!

  30. I have never been to any of the castles, so I think my first choice would be Hever and Hampton Court. Hopefully to see some “behind the scene” secrets and have time to look and absorb. As I’m getting older, it would probably be my only chance- never would go back again.

  31. Thank you for your dedication and passion. Anne has been my favorite of Henry’s wives for a very long time, and I can never get enough information related to her. Well done!

  32. I’d love to visit Hampton Court! I want to see the H and A carving still in the great hall. I also think it would be amazing to be in the place where all of Henry’s wives resided at one point in their lives.

  33. I’m from the US and don’t know if I will ever be able to visit England. If I could, I’d like to see Westminster Abbey, Pembroke Castle, and Hampton Court the most. I love reading about this history and imagining what it was like to live then.

  34. I would love to visit Hever Castle ( if picking one) On my bucket list to go to England and retracing all the History I love so much

  35. I thoroughly enjoyed the first book and will be looking forward to the second. I would like to visit all of the locations at one point in time but would like to visit Richmond especially

  36. Hever Castle is top of my list, and it is a very long list! Obviously for the Anne connection, but also because Henry gave the estate to Anne of Cleve’s. Two queens, one visit!
    Wonderful article, and I can’t wait to read the book, should I be lucky enough to win a copy.

  37. I Am excited about these Panel discovery is fantastic and a great find for Us Historians Of The Tudors particularly Anne Of Cleaves. There wasnt much on her as Historians knew; so this discovery is another key to her puzzle. I as an American love any British findins of The Tudors. Living in the US it takes sometimes months to get a book from Britain. This this new Book by Dr Sarah Morris is one that I would like to read and Bring it to my University History Center and possibly have a talk On Anne Of Cleaves Life and as added to show these wonderful panels. This find is a real treat for Historians and fans of The Tubors.! Brava!

  38. A wonderful article by two intrepid researchers. So glad you have had the persistence to dig at this! Really can’t wait to get the book, I did love the first one and use it as reference all the time. Well done, ladies and continued success!

  39. sometimes i wish i could go back in time to see Henry and his queens , their luxurious lifestyle , their palaces ,….to wonder around at court.Pick one place is to dificult i want to see them all

  40. Cannot wait to read this book! I have always wanted to visit Hever Castle but have never been able to! I have always been obsessed with Henry VII’s wives and especially Anne Boleyn ever since I was old enough to read about them! It would be amazing to walk through rooms Anne walked through and get a sense of her life.

  41. Anything Tudor grabs me.
    But this article & book even more so.
    The mysteries of the Tudors is endless.
    A period that fascinated me since I was 17.
    Hampton court is a place a so dearly want to visit.
    Thank you for sharing this X

  42. Hever castle for the gardens maze and history connected with Henry and more than one of his wives and mistresses.

  43. Hampton Court as it was Henry’s favourite, I can imagine he and his many wives living within these walls !!!

  44. I am from the states and just a beginner in Tudor history. But my place to go would be Hampton Court,so much history. Thank you both for your great contributions to Tudor history.

  45. I would love to travel to England to see anything related to the Tudor time period to include Hever Castle.

  46. Very interesting! I would love to see Hampton Court and Hever Castle. Been in England a couple of times but never had the chance to see those places!

  47. Hever castle where the Boleyns lived and Mary and Anne were young. As well as the Seymour house of Wolf Hall !

  48. Oh, so many places I’d like to visit but I’ll stick with the one that came first to mind, and that’s Hever Castle. Second to mind was the Tower; I visited once before, but that was prior to “The Tudors” piquing my interest in Henry VIII’s court and informing so many of my choices in movies, reading, and ( yes) jewelry.

  49. My daughter and I are real Tudor enthusiasts and would love to take and trip to England and visit all the Tudor historic sites so ANY place would be amazing to us!!

  50. I have visited Hampton Court, and have dearly wanted to go back–there is too much to take in during one trip–but I would probably choose Hever Castle first of all. Having read everything I could find about Anne Boleyn since before I was a teenager, it made such an impression on me. It would be surreal to see it personally.

  51. Thank you for this grand opportunity! My choice is Sudeley Castle. I find Katherine Parr extremely fascinating and would love to walk the grounds where she dwelled.

  52. Living in Australia it is a bit far for me to travel (82) Airlline’s do not like older people traveling on their planes, However I have been following the Boleyn’s Files and find it all so interesting, wish I had taken more time at school to paid attention. I have a friend in U.K who sent me the Book on Tudor Places of Great Britain so interesting, if I was ever to get to U.K I would want to see as many Castles as I could before my legs gave out.

  53. I would like to visit Hever Castle. I have been to Hampton Court. I enjoyed that visit to England very much. There is just so much history in England especially Henry’s wifes left to see.

  54. I am yearning to visit Hever Place, to retrace the footsteps of Anne Boleyn. I have been fascinated by Anne and her tragic love for Henry VIII since a child, and can’t get enough of the whole story, I read everything I can get hold of, and feel for Anne who didn’t deserve what happened to her. Since reading Le Temps Viendra: , my passion has been re ignited! I would dearly love to win this book if I am fortunate enough

  55. To me Anne of Cleve’s has always been a mysterious figure who managed to survive and thrive. To learn more about her would be amazing.

  56. Would love to visit Hampton Court. Henry VIII and his wives fascinate me. Plus England is just beautiful.

  57. I cannot wait to read this! Thank you for the opportunity! Its so hard to pick just one! I’d say either Whitehall or Hampton Court… So much history. To be in such places and just think that it’s time, not space that divides us from these people and these events.. It gives me goosebumps.

  58. It has to be Hever doesn’t it?….I now live in Valencia Spain and ache to take my 4 children to London and surrounding ares to tread in the footsteps of Anne and her fellow wives of King Henry. This year I really want to visit the Alhambra Palace in Granada where Katherine of Aragon lived in her latter years before crossing to England and marrying the King….

  59. Excellent article……strange but would love to visit the Tower of London……like lost of those interested any of the afore mentioned places would be good.

  60. i live in Finland but I have always been interested in Renaissance and the history of Tudors. I’d love to visit Hampton Court. I’ve read quite a lot about Anne Boleyn and King Henry. I’d love to visit Hampton Court. I have visited Tower of London but I’ve never visited other places related to their history.

  61. Definitely Hever Castle, as it’s associated with not just one but two of Henry’s wives. I wonder what Anne of Cleves made of it, the residence of her unfortunate predecessor? Did she feel an affinity with Anne Boleyn? Either way, a beautiful location that I would love to visit.

  62. I get goose bumps reading about these remarkable coincidences!
    I am making my first trip to London in April! I just want to see it ALL. Would especially love to visit the grave of Anne Boleyn if it is possible, but where she grew up would be fab as well!
    Preordered the book for the US release!

  63. I’d like to visit Hever Castle, Hampton Court and Rochford Hall. I live in Columbia, Maryland USA and have never visited England (though visit my ancestral home in Norway every few years).

  64. What a fascinating article, and I would imagine an equally fascinating book! I would love to visit Hampton Court, but there are so many other places I’d like to see as well!

  65. One place I haven’t been yet that I would like to visit is Sudeley Castle. My favorite is Hever Castle, I have been there once and look forward to visiting again.

  66. If I have to only choose one, it would have to be Hever Castle. I hope to someday visit England and that is one of the first places I will visit!

  67. I went to Hampton Court 15 years ago and would love to return. As someone always fascinated by Henry it’s like stepping back in time. To touch a wall that he may have touched and sit in his pew overlooking the magnificent chapel with the blue stars shinning down is truly a dream come true. You can feel him all around you.

  68. I’d most like to visit Hever Castle & Hampton Court Palace. Taking a trip to England and visiting many historic places is on my bucket list! Can’t wait to get my hands on a copy of In the Footsteps of the Six Wives of Henry VIII!

  69. Fascinating! And why, indeed, would the symbols on Anne’s grave be on those panels? A mystery! Thanks for the giveaway! I hope to read the answer soon.

  70. Fascinating. I work at Anne of Cleves house museum in Lewes, East Sussex. We have recently developed a garden based around Tudor plants. This 15th Century house, part of the ‘divorce’ settlement between Henry viii and Anne, was surrounded by orchards and gardens in her time. As a nod to that we have planted a Black Worcester Pear, also known a a Warden (this became a generic term for cooking pears) this variety was supposedly first recorded at the Abbey at Old Warden, Bedfordshire in 1388. Quite an interesting yet unintended link.
    At present I am trying to visit as many of the sites related to the settlement as I can. I hope to visit the remains of places such as Dartford manor this year

  71. Organising Thomas More Panels at the Sixteenth Century Studies’ Conference in Bruges in August 2016, I will certainly be able to walk on Anne de Clèves’ footsteps!

  72. Great Article! I’m really looking forward to reading the book. I would love to visit Hever, Kimbolton,& Sudeley Castles, as well as Hampton Court, Westminster Abbey, & the Tower.

  73. What a great article! I would love to visit Hampton Court Palace (as well as Westminster Abbey, the Tower and Hever Castle) – would be amazing to walk where history walked. Thank you for the giveaway as well. Would LOVE to read this book.

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