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The White Queen - BBC drama
February 7, 2013
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Ok so I heard that this Spring theres going to be a 10 part drama based on 3 books from Gregorys “Cousins War” series, The White Queen, The Red Queen and The Kingmaker’s Daughter. I’m not entirely sure on the date, if anybody knows it could you please tell me, but the prupose of this thread would be to see what peoples feelings are towards it and if they are going to watch it. I hear that its meant to be the wars of the roses answer to showtimes The Tudors. I know that theres a general feeling of dislike towards Gregory but I can’t resist a period drama :D

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February 7, 2013
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I can’t resist a period drama either. The Tudors was not very accurate but I watched it and enjoyed it. I will probably watch this one too even though I do not read Gregory’s books.

February 7, 2013
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The Tudors wasn’t nearly as bad as it could have been. I thought it was quite acurate for a hollywood-ised drama of the Tudor period.

I actually enjoyed the Cousins War series, although its just as inaccurate as the Tudor series. Maybe I liked it more because I didn’t know anything aobut these late plantagenates and so had no major opinions of them I felt I wanted to protect. I’ve obvously read up on the truth of them now because ther ewas no way I was letting Gregory have hte final say on my opinion of anything”

Yea i’m actually quite lookingforward to the drama, lets see if they’ve done extra research besides what Gregory has pushed on them/

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February 7, 2013
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I think it’s due to be broadcast sometime in the Autumn. I will watch it as to be honest I did quite enjoy the book, and it would be intresting to see how they will portray the book. As long as there is no annoying music and squeeky gates. Maybe a cat being played like a set of bagpipes Shut up Boleyn your’ll give SWMNBN ideas…

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February 7, 2013
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Boleyn said

I think it’s due to be broadcast sometime in the Autumn. I will watch it as to be honest I did quite enjoy the book, and it would be intresting to see how they will portray the book. As long as there is no annoying music and squeeky gates. Maybe a cat being played like a set of bagpipes Shut up Boleyn your’ll give SWMNBN ideas…

Oh really? I heard May but i’m not sure…ah well I guess we’ll all find out soon enough. You’re probably right though, those kind of shows are usually put on in the Autumn. Oh no, definitely don’t give her any ideas, eeek!! Please don’t let it be anything liked Marie Antoinette…period drama but with really random modern rock music playing in the background haha.

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February 7, 2013
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I’ll definitely watch it, even if it is based on PG’s books. I just hope they don’t turn it into something like “The Other Boleyn Girl” where the movie was far worse than the book.

February 7, 2013
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Oh I know, that was ridiculous, Seriously, Mary just turning up and grabbing Elizabeth and walking out with her? I don’t even like thinking about it! Silly, silly film!!

Anyway, yes I have afeeling its gonna be much better and more accurate (as far as anything associated with Gregory will ever be that is)

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July 1, 2013
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Ok, I’ve been watching this. The two leads have no chemistry together, I don’t like the actress who plays Elizabeth Woodville, the history is dodgy, the costuming is hilarious (zips! on a dress!) and the characters are totally one dimensional. Yet I’m weirdly enjoying it. Anyone else feel the same way or is it just me?!

July 2, 2013
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I’ve downloaded it but haven’t watched it yet, actually going to wait until the series has finished then watch it, that way I can have a good laugh, get frustrated, have a hissy fit and then give everyone an opinion, although from the trailers I’ve seen I agree with Bella, there just doesn’t seem to be that spark like there was with the Tudors series. From the first Episode of the Tudors I was completely hooked. I think the White Queen won’t hook me but will be something perhaps to send me to sleep instead.

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July 2, 2013
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it is, sadly, just dire. the history is just laughable, the set/costuming is pathetic given the fuss they made about having to film in Belgium because of how all the old buildings in the UK are covered in CCTV, parking signs, and satelite dishes, the writing/storyline is dross and the acting/casting is pretty rubbish.

i can’t tell you how disapointed i am in the BBC for going with this: the story of Elizabeth Woodville, the Wars of the Roses, the Princes in the Tower and the rise of the Tudors are real, interesting, exciting, dramatic stories – and they don’t belong to PG. the Beeb could have – particularly with the recent discovery of Richard III’s remains and the subsequent increase in public interest in the period – commissioned a really good history-drama that should have spent PG’s fee/royalties on historical accuracy and a decent script-writer. (and Richard Armatage as Richard, Duke of Gloucester… hmm.. man-crush!)

i’m an absolute fanatic on the WotR, but i only watched the first episode, and ten minutes of the third – i actually switched the TV off rather than be subjected to Hollyoaks in chainmail. PG’s work is so awful, so historically naff, that even a confirmed Yorkist like me is outraged at the way she presents Margeret Beaufort – its just all so pitifully crap, even as pure soap, that its not worth the cost of the electricity to run the telly.

July 2, 2013
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I agree with you Bob, especially about Richard Armatage Laugh
But it’s like a car crash, I just can’t look away!

July 2, 2013
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I’ve not been watching this, but bearing in mind what everyone’s been saying about it, I’m just wondering if the Tudors win this version of the War of the Roses?
I think it’s important to know because if not then I’m going to book myself into Hogwarts for the start of next term.

July 2, 2013
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It’s all surface and little substance. The show looks rather beautiful, and I’m enjoying it for what it is – a chocolate box version of history. I lpve Amanda Hale’s passionate, sorrow-laden but inspired Margaret Beaufort; the fact that the women are the real stars of the story; that we see even Elizabeth’s enemies’ perspectives (it’s not all about the ‘heroine’); that we are led to feel empathy with virtually all factions. I can’t help but enjoy the show, for all its faults – I realise that The White Queen isn’t that good but I’m charmed by it nonetheless.

July 2, 2013
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You know yourself Louise that nothing is certain where S.W.M.N.B.N is concerned it could well be that in the last episode, Ghengis Khan and his hoards come riding over the hill kill everything that moves, and Mickey Mouse becomes King and marries Elizabeth of York, and Pluto his cheif advisor. As for Ghengis Khan, well he gives up the murdering and mayhem job and becomes a ballet dancer, who sells flowers on the side.
Henry Tulip becomes a cattle farmer. Richard the 3rd becomes a stand up comic, an the Princes in the Tower become prize fighters and will take anyone on for a groat for a 3 minute round. Elizabeth Woodville become a drunken lush and manages to get a part in a soap opera, called I love London town. Margeret Woodville gives up the religious life and becomes a high class prostitute.
Shut your gob Boleyn, that’s twice this week you will be giving S.W.M.N.B.N ideas for her next fantasy novel..

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July 2, 2013
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You should spoiler that, Boleyn, or PG might steal the plot for her next disasterpiece.

July 2, 2013
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If Richard III’s last words are ‘a tank, a tank, my kingdom for a Sherman tank’ then I think they’ve probably gone too far with the inaccuracies.

July 2, 2013
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Actually I like her Richard, he’s been the main character in two of the books so far, and will be in the next one. Anyway Games of Thrones and Doctor Who have finished, I have to watch something. I see it has BBC’s famous hand-held camera shots, they drive Craig batty. It’s pretty lacklustre though.

July 2, 2013
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The show isn’t being shown in America until August. However, it is the last season of Dexter, and I am watching that. I’m sure I will prefer it. Wink

July 2, 2013
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Sharon from what i’ve read so far about The White Queen here, watching paint dry would be better. Actually thinking about it theycould put the whole series onto disc, and market it as a cure for insomnia. I’m sure after watching just half and hour of it an insomniac would fall into a coma. in fact thinking about it the powers that be would have to put it on perscription as it could send insomniacs into an unwakable coma. Not good.

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July 8, 2013
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The critics are queuing up to bash TWQ in a manner that makes Vicious seem like the recipient of lavish bouquets of roses. Personally, I don’t much care if I spot a BMW and an ice cream van following Edward IV’s horse outside a Belgian McDonalds masquerading as Westminster Abbey, but there you go…

Round-up of Episode 4 or 5 or something: Warwick still has that villainous deep drawl/accent, unfortunately, and is still overacting to Olympic standards; Margaret Beaufort is still nuts or inspired or possibly both; Elizabeth remains as insipid as ever, and 15th-century England continues to be the cleanest place in history; however, I quite like rubbish so I’m enjoying the show.

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