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Henry Percy
November 8, 2011
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Mya Elise
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What do you think their relationship was exactly? Or what was the extent of it?…

 

Personally, i can't come to a conclusion. Maybe it was like in 'Anne of a thousand days', they were in love and wanted to marry then Henry weaved himself in because he decided he wanted Anne now. Or maybe they flirted and then when Henry & Anne were together rumors came up to kind of push Anne away. Honestly i don't know what to think on this one, what is everyone else's thoughts?

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December 20, 2011
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I don't know either. I always think that if they were in love like in 'Anne of the Thousand days' then how sad, and what a shame that their happiness was ruined! I remember watching one of David Starkey's documentaries, I think it was 'In the Mind of A Tyrant' and he claimed that Percy was present at Anne's trial and that he fainted on hearing the verdict…thus suggesting he was rather fond of her.

December 20, 2011
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Mya Elise
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It is sad. If Anne and Henry were in love and Henry VIII ended it because he wanted her then it kind of really sucks. To be taken away from someone you have feelings for just cause someone else likes you. Just shows Henry's selfishness.

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December 20, 2011
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I'm not sure either…

 

on one hand Percy was the next duke of Northumberland and as such would have had money and power and possibly a better match then James Ormonde

 

On the other he was still under both his father's and Wolsey's thumbs….

 

From what I've read Anne enjoyed the dance of flirting..possibly she thought she could extract Henry P from his elders and make a life with him  close to the centre of power, the court rather than the more primitive north of England.

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December 21, 2011
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Mya-Elise. said:

It is sad. If Anne and Henry were in love and Henry VIII ended it because he wanted her then it kind of really sucks. To be taken away from someone you have feelings for just cause someone else likes you. Just shows Henry's selfishness.

Hi Mya,

This love affair happened in 1523. I may have to change my opinion as to Henry’s involvement in this breakup. I know Cavendish said that Henry interferred, but Wolsey is the one who told this to Percy. It seems Wolsey and Percy’s father did not want the couple to be together. Wolsey contacted the Earl who came to get his son.  The Earl wanted his son to marry Mary Talbot. Wolsey did not think Anne was good enough for Percy.

 I’m not sure Henry knew anything about this.  Wolsey would use Henry’s name when he thought it would help win his arguments. (ie when Wolsey said Henry had other plans for Anne.) Wolsey may have been referring to the Ormond negotiations which were stalling out partly because of inaction. If all of this took place in 1523, Henry was very much involved in his affair with Mary Boleyn.  As far as I know, Henry had yet to notice Anne.  But I agree with you, Henry was selfish! 

By the time of Anne’s trial, Percy was a sick man. He died a year later. He did pass out after her verdict was read, but it is hard to say whether it was because of his strong feeling for Anne, or due to his illness. How sad if he had been in love with her all of his life and had to pronounce her guilty at her trial knowing it meant her death.  Do you think she may have been the love of his life?  It’s hard to know for sure, but he did become a very embittered man at the end.   Cry

December 22, 2011
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Maybe Anne was the love of his life – it certainly wasn't his wife.  I always think how awful it must have been for him to sit in on her trail and say she was guilty.  And I'm sure something like that would've played on his conscience, maybe even hastening his end. 

December 23, 2011
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Wonder if this Henry thought she was guilty?….

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