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Season 4 Inaccuracies
April 18, 2010
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Claire
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Spotted any inaccuracies/deviations from history in Season 4 so far?

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April 19, 2010
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Here are some I've spotted:-

  • Sir John Neville – When Wriothesley is giving Henry a list of those in the Tower and Henry tells him to execute them, Sir Jon Neville is named. Well, he was Catherine Parr's second husband and while being involved in the Pilgrimage of Grace (Catherine and her stepchildren were held hostage to ensure his loyalty to the cause) he was not arrested or executed. However the show is correct in Henry's treatment of the Ninth Baron Dacre who did commit murder and was hanged at Tyburn as a common murderer.
  • Anne Stanhope – While Edward Seymour's first wife, Catherine Fillol, was a bit of character – she had an affair with his father – there is no way that the snooty Anne Stanhope would have acted the way she does in The Tudors. She is the one who looks down on Catherine Parr when Catherine marries Thomas Seymour.
  • Culpeper and Lady Rochford – I can't see any evidence for this relationship but I can see how they're building up Culpeper's unsavoury character.
  • Catherine and Joan – When I asked my husband if he thought that the show was hinting at a sexual relationship between Catherine and Joan he laughed and said that they were actually laying it on rather thick!
  • Brandon – I love the way that they're making Charles haunted by the past but I'm not sure there is any evidence of his marriage deteriorating. By this time, the couple had two son, born in 1535 and 1537.
  • Norfolk and Surrey – The Duke of Norfolk was missing from Season 2 too and Suffolk took over his role in the Pilgrimage of Grace and now we see the character Surrey taking over his role. Norfolk and his son, Sir Henry Howard (3rd Earl of Surrey) were both imprisoned after Catherine Howard's fall and because Henry thought that they were plotting to take the crown from Edward. Surrey was executed on the 19th January 1547 but Henry VIII died before his father's planned execution so Norfolk escaped. So, a father and son team in reality.
  • Cranmer – Cranmer was one of Henry's major advisers and was one of the people Henry left in charge when he went on progress with Catherine. It was Cranmer who was chosen to tell the King about Catherine's past and Cranmer who questioned Catherine, yet he is missing.

Any others you've spotted?

Debunking the myths about Anne Boleyn

April 19, 2010
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I noticed when Henry ordered the death of John Neville, he also ordered the death of Sir Arthur (Plantagenet) Lisle. He was under suspicion at one point, but he was not executed.  He was held in the Tower for 2 years.  Upon learning he was to be released, he suffered a heart attack and died.

It kind of bugs me that the show has changed Edward's wife so completely.  The woman playing his wife is the complete opposite of what Anne Stanhope was like.  Not that Anne was a charm, but I don't think she should be portrayed as…well…a whore.

 Nobody seems to know what to make of Lady Rochford.  Authors and screenplay writers create all kinds of reasons why Jane would do what she did to Catherine, and why she did what she did to Anne and George.  An affair with Culpeper is as good a reason as any as to why she would betray another Queen.  The one bright spot is that she doesn't get away with it this time.  They are definitely setting up the finale.

April 19, 2010
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Henry refers to the King of Scotland as his cousin, when in previous seasons, he (correctly) called him his nephew. Maybe someone pointed out the show had eliminated Henry's sister who married the King of Scotland? Reverse continuity instead of historical continuity? LOL

Modern terms that grate. This has happened in other seasons, too. This time, it was Edward's wife starting a remark with a sarcastic “Hello?” Also, Henry refers to someone “trying to mess me around”. I was all “Wha….? They didn't speak like that!”

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April 20, 2010
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One more thing.

Elizabeth is actually only 7 yrs old at this time.  They made her much older for the show.  Although I do love the girl playing her.  She's perfect.

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