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April 10, 2012
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Maggyann said

Thank you for the information Duchess. I love royals in history but I have to admit to having gaps. My interest seems to fade with the arrival of James and by Victoria I am more interested in the social aspects than the monarchy. On the other end of the scale I enjoy everything from Boudica onwards to Elizabeth. I must make myself concentrate and discover more about things after Elizabeth as far as the royals go.

My knowledge on the Stuarts is limited. I am just starting to learn more about them. They do not hold my interest like the Tudors, although the Scottish Stuarts (prior to James becoming King of England) are a rather interesting lot.

I could do without the Hanovers. I never got the attraction, and I still don’t.

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Maggyann said

Thank you for the information Duchess. I love royals in history but I have to admit to having gaps. My interest seems to fade with the arrival of James and by Victoria I am more interested in the social aspects than the monarchy. On the other end of the scale I enjoy everything from Boudica onwards to Elizabeth. I must make myself concentrate and discover more about things after Elizabeth as far as the royals go.

That’s how I am too. I have read up to and including the male Stuart’s and very little about Mary and Ann. Then I jump over to Scotland to read about James’ failed invasion and Bonnie Prince Charles’ attempts. I read that from the Scott’s point of view though. I’ve never gotten into the actual reigns of the George’s or Victoria. I find it a tough go.

April 10, 2012
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Maggyann said

Thanks for that Bill. So if there were 5 survived birth, one of which was the son who lived to 11 that means there are 4 others. Was it normal practice then to simply inter small coffins into any old grave? This particular one with Henry, Charles and the Queen has an indication on the slab of one of Anne’s children does anyone know where the rest are?
As to the longevity of ‘James III’ perhaps it would have been shorter if he had won the throne, stress and what have you…

I believe a few of Anne’s babies were interred in the same crypt as Mary Queen of Scots in Westminster Abbey. Which is quite nice for them to be with an ancestor when you think about it. I’m guessing that the baby with Henry, Jane and Charles was put there because perhaps Windsor is where Anne gave birth and every other time she was in London? Just an idea that the babies were laid to rest in the closest chapel to where Anne gave birth.
I’m another one who doesn’t know much about the Stuarts and the Hanoverians, although I’m rather interested in the eighteenth century but that’s more about the every day people rather than the monarchy.

April 10, 2012
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I’ve been fascinated with the Stuarts since Year 8 History where we did a topic on “Tudors & Starts”. I will admit though that it’s only in the past couple of weeks that I’ve really re-submerged into the Stuarts world. They are a fascinating bunch, you have James I & VI who though his thinking that being a monarch was a devine right from God passed this idealogoy onto his son Charles I which bought about the English Civil War and Charles execution, then with Cromwell and the Puritans I begin to understand the reason for today’s America’s religious views, with the restoration of the monarchy (albeit much less absolute than Charles I reign) we suddenly get a is he or isn’t he a Catholic in Charles II who signed a secret deal with Louis of France that he would be Catholic. This then brings about Charles II defying parliament and insisting his Catholic brother James II take over the throne. Eventually James II annoys parliament that parliament secretly asks James’ son in law William Of Orange to invade. Which he does with no drop of blood cause James is a scaredy cat and flees England thus abdicating. This allows William to co-reign with his wife Mary (James’ daughter), during this time England’s navy is rebuilt and England begins to take centre stage, then Anne )Mary’s sister takes over after William’s death and Great Britain is formed. Apparently Anne was very much like Elizabeth in that she knew how to work the public. Under Anne’s rule Britain became a world power. Then Anne dies, succession passes to the Hanovers and I don’t care LOL.

The Stuarts really do have a great soap opera quality about their reigns, not as soapy as the Tudors but plenty of material to make a TV series out of them.

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Bill1978 said

I’ve been fascinated with the Stuarts since Year 8 History where we did a topic on “Tudors & Starts”. I will admit though that it’s only in the past couple of weeks that I’ve really re-submerged into the Stuarts world. They are a fascinating bunch, you have James I & VI who though his thinking that being a monarch was a devine right from God passed this idealogoy onto his son Charles I which bought about the English Civil War and Charles execution, then with Cromwell and the Puritans I begin to understand the reason for today’s America’s religious views, with the restoration of the monarchy (albeit much less absolute than Charles I reign) we suddenly get a is he or isn’t he a Catholic in Charles II who signed a secret deal with Louis of France that he would be Catholic. This then brings about Charles II defying parliament and insisting his Catholic brother James II take over the throne. Eventually James II annoys parliament that parliament secretly asks James’ son in law William Of Orange to invade. Which he does with no drop of blood cause James is a scaredy cat and flees England thus abdicating. This allows William to co-reign with his wife Mary (James’ daughter), during this time England’s navy is rebuilt and England begins to take centre stage, then Anne )Mary’s sister takes over after William’s death and Great Britain is formed. Apparently Anne was very much like Elizabeth in that she knew how to work the public. Under Anne’s rule Britain became a world power. Then Anne dies, succession passes to the Hanovers and I don’t care LOL.

The Stuarts really do have a great soap opera quality about their reigns, not as soapy as the Tudors but plenty of material to make a TV series out of them.

“Then Anne dies, succession passes to the Hanovers and I don’t care.” That about sums it up for me too. LOL
I think The Stuart’s could give The Tudors a run for its money. Especially with Charles II’s love life.

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Anyone ever gotten into the reign of Victoria?

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April 11, 2012
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No I am afraid Victoria leaves me cold. Victorian London is interesting but not the royal side of things. Not a patch on the Tudors or some of the others.

Let us show them that they are hares and foxes trying to rule over dogs and wolves - Boudica addressing the tribes Circa AD60

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I never really got into her reign either, i’ve tried. But that movie with Emily Blunt, wasn’t it called ‘Young Victoria’? Yeah that movie was pretty good.

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Anyone ever gotten into the reign of Victoria?[/qupte]

I’ve enjoyed The Young Victoria movie and the Her Majesty, Mrs Brown movie but other than that the only thing that interests me with Victoria is how she has a genetic mutation than introduced haemophilia into the British royal family which then introduced it into the Russian Royal Family via marriage and thus its Victoria’s fault that the Romanov’s were killed LOL. I really do love using Victoria’s family tree when teaching pedigrees and sex linked inheritance .

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Mya Elise said

Anyone ever gotten into the reign of Victoria?

The era is very intereasting, with all the improvements in medicine and the Industrial Revolution hitting full speed. The large scale works of Brunel and Bazelgette are fascinating….

The start of the Sufferagette movements and education for women….women getting degrees and becoming doctors…

eta The main players leave me cold though.

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