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8:06 am
November 23, 2010
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how much more Annes name is appearing in news and articles on the internet because of the royal wedding.
I even read one article earlier today that compaired Kate to Anne because they both may (and I am saying “may” because the article said that theres no proof Kate has done this) have used their femanie wiles to get to the positions they have/did.
Here is a snippit from the article …. and the full article if you want to read it http://www.independent.co.uk/l…..74658.html
But a brief look at the history of the bad girl reveals it to be a term applied to any women who has ever taken control of her own life. Cleopatra, for instance, or Middleton's predecessor Anne Boleyn – two women who got to the top using the only weapon in their arsenal, their sexuality.
“Anne Boleyn is remembered by her contemporaries as someone with the beast in view,” says Nicola Shulman, author of Graven with Diamonds: the Many Lives of Thomas Wyatt. “She grew up in the French court and had wonderful French manners – she could write poetry, sing, dance and she was witty. And she clearly had phenomenal brains. She wasn't just worked from behind by her family. Anne Boleyn was the engine of her own destiny.”
Shulman quotes contemporary evidence that Boleyn set out to become notorious and get noticed by persuading Wyatt, one of the era's most glamorous courtiers, to fall in love with her. “If the cool person is in love with you, you get the attention,” continues Shulman. Boleyn also played the court's rumour mill of gossip and mischevious ditties like a pro and acted a part – she had to do so, in order to keep the King's attention for seven years. “In one poem, Wyatt refers to a new girlfriend and an old one with a system of opposites: one a simple, country girl; the other rather contrived.” Boleyn created a persona for herself in order to win the throne, Shulman suggests.
Almost 500 years later, the contemporary assumption is not so different with Kate Middleton. There are those who suggest she has been trained by her mother from an early age, schooled correctly and sent to the same university as Prince William to “catch” the future king. There is no proof in any of it, needless to say, but it goes to show the consensus that women who end up with the man of their dreams cannot possibly have managed it without some sort of strategy. When Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden married Daniel Westling, her personal trainer, last year there was no suggestion that he had fooled, beguiled or enticed her into wedlock. Nor was there when Guy Ritchie married his teen crush Madonna, or Chris Martin bagged Gwyneth Paltrow, having adored her from afar for many years. This, then, forms the basis of the bad girl: she is a woman who gets what she wants.
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8:35 am
March 26, 2011
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Yeah I've noticed this too!
You kind of have to feel sorry for Kate ( not for being compared to Anne Boleyn) I mean imagine that you're about to get married and constantly you have yourself and your husband-to-Be's relationship compared to one that famously ended badly!
I know that no one is trying to suggest that Kate won't have a happy marriage, (I'm sure that all the journalists are sure that she will and wish her all the best) but still, it does nothing to help pre-wedding nerves does it! It must be so hard to have the press following your every move and over analysing everything.
8:41 am
November 18, 2010
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Yuck!
What a load of tripe. I would have expected that from the Mail or the Telegraph not the Indy.
Almost 500 years later, the contemporary assumption is not so
different with Kate Middleton. There are those who suggest she has been
trained by her mother from an early age, schooled correctly and sent to
the same university as Prince William to “catch” the future king. There
is no proof in any of it, needless to say, but it goes to show the
consensus that women who end up with the man of their dreams cannot
possibly have managed it without some sort of strategy
It's always bunnies.
8:57 am
June 7, 2010
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I feel bad for Kate Middleton. Heaven for bid that she and William actually fell in love, and want to celebrate that love in a beautiful wedding tomorrow. No, of course not. She seduced him into marriage, and kept that up for nearly a decade. What a load of…..
I think they make a lovely couple. She is a natural for the role. I do not envy her one bit, but she is what the royals need: normalcy.
Regardless of the woman William chose, she was going to be desecreated by the press, who must ruin everything with cynacism and overactive imaginations.
I wish the best for Will and Kate. I believe she won William's heart because she is his soul-mate. Can a good girl not get ahead in life because of her personality and intelliegnce? No, of course not. She must reduce herself to a sexual object to get and keep a man. Of course, she must have taken notes about that infamous wh*re, Anne Boleyn, whose humanity is devoid in lieu of her sexuality.
Anyanka, I too thought the Indy were above this crap. Apparently, selling newspapers is more important than telling actual news.
I agree, any man who marries a royal never gets treated with such cruelty. It's always the woman's fault, or so it seems.
"By daily proof you shall find me to be to you both loving and kind" Anne Boleyn
9:21 am
November 18, 2010
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It's not like they rushed into marriage either. They've been together for over 7 years off and on. And lived together for some time. Guess that's part of the whole AB conspiracy.
It's always bunnies.
9:26 am
April 11, 2011
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Bravo, well said Ladies.
9:26 am
February 24, 2010
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Oh good grief! What a load of crap! I agree with everything that you all have said. I'm not going to comment further because the only words I can think of at the moment are swear words. 
9:28 am
March 26, 2011
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DuchessofBrittany said:
I feel bad for Kate Middleton. Heaven for bid that she and William actually fell in love, and want to celebrate that love in a beautiful wedding tomorrow. No, of course not. She seduced him into marriage, and kept that up for nearly a decade. What a load of…..
I think they make a lovely couple. She is a natural for the role. I do not envy her one bit, but she is what the royals need: normalcy.
Regardless of the woman William chose, she was going to be desecreated by the press, who must ruin everything with cynacism and overactive imaginations.
I wish the best for Will and Kate. I believe she won William's heart because she is his soul-mate. Can a good girl not get ahead in life because of her personality and intelliegnce? No, of course not. She must reduce herself to a sexual object to get and keep a man. Of course, she must have taken notes about that infamous wh*re, Anne Boleyn, whose humanity is devoid in lieu of her sexuality.
Anyanka, I too thought the Indy were above this crap. Apparently, selling newspapers is more important than telling actual news.
I agree, any man who marries a royal never gets treated with such cruelty. It's always the woman's fault, or so it seems.
I totally agree, this is so unfair. It frustrates me that even nowadays people cannot accept that a girl can become a success through intellegence and personality!
I think instead newspapers should emphasise the fact that Kate has NOT reduced herself to an object, and that is something that a lot of young women could learn from. That's just the media nowadays though isn't it..it's as if they think that they have to make up some sort of rubbish to appeal to the masses-it's insulting the intelligence of the public.
9:41 am
February 24, 2010
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Claire-Louise said:
I totally agree, this is so unfair. It frustrates me that even nowadays people cannot accept that a girl can become a success through intellegence and personality!
I think instead newspapers should emphasise the fact that Kate has NOT reduced herself to an object, and that is something that a lot of young women could learn from. That's just the media nowadays though isn't it..it's as if they think that they have to make up some sort of rubbish to appeal to the masses-it's insulting the intelligence of the public.
The media in America certainly reports on made up rubbish.
9:54 am
April 11, 2011
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Sharon said:
The media in America certainly reports on made up rubbish.
Sharon, I think the media in all countries make things up, at least we have the opportunity to form an opinion based on multiple sources, you should have read “Pravda” when I stayed in Moscow many years ago (if ever a newspaper had the wrong name, this was it)!
5:10 am
November 18, 2010
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I used to love the Sport…The stories were so OTT at times, shame about the naked ladies though but I wasn't the target audience for the rag.
I remember discussing the “World War II bomber found on the moon” at a pub and some-one was worried that the crew might have run out of food….
It's always bunnies.
7:51 am
February 24, 2010
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We have our tabloid papers, but I was referring to our regular newspapers and cable shows. The papers and cable shows from which we are supposed to receive the real news. People make up stories and our “journalists” give them news time knowing full well that the story is a joke.
3:02 pm
March 9, 2011
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Cleopatra, for instance, or Middleton's predecessor Anne Boleyn – two women who got to the top using the only weapon in their arsenal, their sexuality.
7:01 pm
November 18, 2010
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I'm surprised no-one ever mentioned Elizabeth Wydville and her mother Jacquetta of Luxembourg as being the arch-typical mother/daughter power plotters.
It's always bunnies.
2:06 pm
April 19, 2011
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Oh dear…what madness. 
Media is mind numbingly cruel sometimes. Anne and Kate might be midly similar but Henry VIII and William are NOT. At all. In any way. And that was the catalyst. And there's no Cromwell. Whew!
On a personal note, I find William and Kate to be quite genuine and wonderful and I wish the absolute best for them! 
2:15 pm
June 7, 2010
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JWold77 said:
Oh dear…what madness.
On a personal note, I find William and Kate to be quite genuine and wonderful and I wish the absolute best for them!
I agree. William and Kate are really in love and I believe it is genuine. I wish them the best. They deserve to be happy. Kate won herself a wonderful man, and she knows it!
While watching their wedding, Diana would be so proud of her son. He married for love, and married a woman who is his equal!
Your right JWold, Will and Kate are nothing like Henry and Anne, and thank goodness for that.
"By daily proof you shall find me to be to you both loving and kind" Anne Boleyn
10:21 am
December 5, 2010
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I wish our new Duke and Duchess of Cambridge (!) the best of luck. I really do think it's a genuine love match.
As for the comparison between Will & Kate and Henry & Anne, has anyone heard what our old friend Philippa Gregory has to say about Kate? I haven't heard anything but I'm too scared to look! It could be bad…
I wish to confess to you and tell you my secret, which is that I am no angel. -Queen Elizabeth I
2:07 pm
April 19, 2011
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DuchessofBrittany said:
JWold77 said:
Oh dear…what madness.
On a personal note, I find William and Kate to be quite genuine and wonderful and I wish the absolute best for them!
I agree. William and Kate are really in love and I believe it is genuine. I wish them the best. They deserve to be happy. Kate won herself a wonderful man, and she knows it!
While watching their wedding, Diana would be so proud of her son. He married for love, and married a woman who is his equal!Your right JWold, Will and Kate are nothing like Henry and Anne, and thank goodness for that.
Thank goodness indeed! And I think William has learned quite a bit and will be a wonderful husband. Henry didn't, or didn't have to, think about that. Husbands were simply expected to be obeyed no matter how they acted, and Henry sure took advantage of that (six times!). The best of the luck to the Duke and Duchess 🙂
7:18 pm
August 12, 2009
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I think William learned quite a lot from his father's mistakes as well. Charles let the love of his life (to each their own, I guess!) go because he was afraid to commit. Then when she married another, he wanted her back. He married Diana for heirs, but could never fully commit to her because he was already committed to Camilla. What a lot of unhappiness all their actions caused!
When Diana died, Charles did the first thing I really admired by defying his parents and insisting on going to France to escort her body back to England, and insisting she receive a State funeral when the Queen was still insisting the Spencers bury her privately. It was also only after her death that I think he realized he needed to open up more to his sons because they needed an involved parent. I think he succeeded, since William and Harry seem to truly want him to be happy and haven't tried to freeze out Camilla.
I think William had cold feet/fear of committment, too, when he and Kate broke up a few years ago. I remember reading somewhere that Charles talked to him about not repeating the mistake he made, although I have no idea how much truth there is in that particular rumor! But it is nice to see people not repeating the same old mistakes and actually learning and growing. So I have much hope that William and Kate will be able to make a go of it in a mature, loving relationship. And that they'll be great parents. That's Diana's true legacy, I think.
Queen Anne Boleyn and Princess Diana were both despised, maligned and discarded royal wives who both contributed greatly to England's welfare via the royal families that rejected them. They both triumphed in the end.
"Don't knock at death's door.
Ring the bell and run. He hates that."
3:11 pm
April 19, 2011
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Impish_Impulse said:
I think William learned quite a lot from his father's mistakes as well. Charles let the love of his life (to each their own, I guess!) go because he was afraid to commit. Then when she married another, he wanted her back. He married Diana for heirs, but could never fully commit to her because he was already committed to Camilla. What a lot of unhappiness all their actions caused!
When Diana died, Charles did the first thing I really admired by defying his parents and insisting on going to France to escort her body back to England, and insisting she receive a State funeral when the Queen was still insisting the Spencers bury her privately. It was also only after her death that I think he realized he needed to open up more to his sons because they needed an involved parent. I think he succeeded, since William and Harry seem to truly want him to be happy and haven't tried to freeze out Camilla.
I think William had cold feet/fear of committment, too, when he and Kate broke up a few years ago. I remember reading somewhere that Charles talked to him about not repeating the mistake he made, although I have no idea how much truth there is in that particular rumor! But it is nice to see people not repeating the same old mistakes and actually learning and growing. So I have much hope that William and Kate will be able to make a go of it in a mature, loving relationship. And that they'll be great parents. That's Diana's true legacy, I think.
Queen Anne Boleyn and Princess Diana were both despised, maligned and discarded royal wives who both contributed greatly to England's welfare via the royal families that rejected them. They both triumphed in the end.
Wow! Well spoken and wonderfully said
