11:46 am
March 26, 2011
I've been trying to do some research about pets in the Tudor times ( random I know) and there seems to be a lot of conflicting information regarding Anne Boleyn's greyhound Urian. For example, I always thought that William Brereton gave Urian to Anne Boleyn as a gift, and that the dog was named after his brother but I've read in a few places that it was Wolsey's dog. Is there any books that have reliable information about this?
Also online there is a lot of stuff about the name Urian meaning devil's helper and I realise this is just some kind of thing to go with the whole Anne Boleyn was a witch type nonsense, but does anyone know what the name actually means?
12:06 pm
November 18, 2010
Urian is a Celtic name meaning from a priviledged family
http://www.babynamespedia.com/…..ning/Urian
or Greek meaning heaven
http://www.cutebabyname.com/urian.html
There is a Saint Urian who not actually a saint…http://www.btinternet.com/~rob…..chapel.htm.
It's always bunnies.
Claire-Louise said:
I've been trying to do some research about pets in the Tudor times ( random I know) and there seems to be a lot of conflicting information regarding Anne Boleyn's greyhound Urian. For example, I always thought that William Brereton gave Urian to Anne Boleyn as a gift, and that the dog was named after his brother but I've read in a few places that it was Wolsey's dog. Is there any books that have reliable information about this?
Also online there is a lot of stuff about the name Urian meaning devil's helper and I realise this is just some kind of thing to go with the whole Anne Boleyn was a witch type nonsense, but does anyone know what the name actually means?
Interesting topic. There is little work out there on pets during the Tudor period, so it is a great area to explore. May I suggest you consider the inclusion of pets in portraits? One that springs to mind instantly is the fabulous group portrait of William Brooke, 10th Baron Cobham and his family (kept in Longleat House). Some of the children are holding their pets, and there is a lovely parrot sat on the table.
Urian appears to have been named after a specific person. William Brereton had a brother named Urian; both had established positions at court. They were very much the ‘King’s men’ and naturally supported Henry during his attempts to annul his marriage to Katherine of Aragon. According to Tim Thorton in his study on Tudor Cheshire (a county which the Breretons played an important role in), Urian Brereton hunted with Anne and it was their dogs that accidentally killed a cow, leading Henry VIII to compensate the farmer. Thornton argues that Anne's dog was probably named after him (though Thornton makes a slight error by saying that Anne named a ‘lapdog’ after him. In fact it was her Greyhound she named Urian).
We know a bit about Anne’s choice of pets from the Lisle letters. Lady Lisle, married to Henry VIII’s uncle, was desperate to get her daughters, or at least one of her daughters, into the queen’s household. She managed this during Henry’s marriage to Jane Seymour, but her attempts extended back to Anne Boleyn’s time as queen. She also wished to establish good relations with the King’s new wife. So she asked her agents in England to find out what gifts, whether it was food or pets, Anne would appreciate. In 1534 Lady Lisle sent a little dog to Sir Francis Bryan which, Bryan wrote, was ‘so well liked by the Queen that it remained not above an hour in my hands but her Grace took it from me’. Perhaps this was Pourkoy, a little dog which Anne adored (to the degree that when it died in an accident about a year later the only person who could break the news and comfort her was Henry). Lady Lisle asked about other pets the Queen favoured and was told that she liked birds. In 1534 she sent her a linnet. Anne, Lady Lisle was subqeuntly told, loved the bird’s ‘pleasant song’.
"Much as her form seduc'd the sight,
Her eyes could ev'n more surely woo;"
8:44 am
March 26, 2011
Thanks for the name meanings Anyanka, I wonder if anyone on this forum has named a pet Urian?
Nasim, the group portrait is fascinating; I like the way that the animals blend in with the scene. Also the letters from Lady Lisle and Francis Bryan are a fantastic source of information on pets in the Tudor times. It appears that dogs were well established as companions at this period in time, rather than just as working animals.
9:04 am
March 26, 2011
wreckmasterjay said:
I never knew Anne had a greyhound…..was she an animal lover then or just kept the dog because it was a gift? I've seen the posters of Tudors with Natalie Dormer posing with Henry and a black cat…..I know thats fiction but it got me thinking.
For the record….that black cat looks just like mine
I think from what evidence we have from Lady Lisle's letters, we can presume that Anne was at least a dog lover. As Nasim points out, Anne was devastated when her lapdog died and only Henry could comfort her.
I've also seen the Tudors posters with the black cat. I think they meant the cat in the poster to be a reference to the myths that Anne had 'bewitched' Henry. In one of 'The Tudors' episode's Henry claims that he had been 'seduced by withcraft', and I'm sure that if I am thinking of the same poster, the cat was wearing a necklace which matches Anne's, so i can only presume that they meant it to be symbolic of magic ( you know, like witches familiars and stuff). I don't think cats were a popular pet at court but I'm not 100% sure.
Still, it would be pretty cool to have a cat that looks like the one in the poster
10:35 am
November 18, 2010
I think cats tended to be more of a working animal* in those days rather than pets. They tended to be kitchen and barn animals.
Dogs on the other hand were more of a pet since they were breed into differing breeds even then. Small dogs tended to be mousers nad ratters like a terrier style while greyhounds and the like where hunting dogs and then there were herding dogs on farms.
* In as much as cats work..mine just slump around all day…even when I had mice a couple of weeks ago!
It's always bunnies.
12:27 pm
November 18, 2010
One of our cats brought a bird into the bedroom and it was still alive and started flying around. Oh the fun we had trying to get a bird out of the window at about 3am!
As others have said, Anne Boleyn had two dogs, a lap dog and a greyhound, and she was not “into” monkeys which were quite a popular pet. There is a painting of Catherine of Aragon with her pet monkey.
Debunking the myths about Anne Boleyn
Claire-Louise said:
It appears that dogs were well established as companions at this period in time, rather than just as working animals.
Certainly, and they also acted as status symbols. Little dogs, like the one Anne plucked from Bryan's arms, were very expensive and not always easy to obtain.
Mary Tudor (Queen Mary I) was fond of dogs. Like Anne she appears to have favoured little dogs (you can see one in a joint portrait of her Philip of Spain) but she also owned greyhounds (references to the dogs can be found in her expenses book in the British Library – another excellent resource for you. The keeper of her greyhounds in the 1530s/40s was Christopher Bradley). She also liked birds.
There was a rather famous episode with the duchess of Suffolk’s dog in the 1540s or 1550s (the date still remains unclear). She allegedly ordered that it be dressed it up in white robes, called it ‘Gardiner’ (a reference to the traditionalist bishop of Winchester, Stephen Gardiner), and had it participate in a mock procession. The dog may have been the one she received from Lady Lisle in the 1540s.
"Much as her form seduc'd the sight,
Her eyes could ev'n more surely woo;"
4:28 am
November 18, 2010