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Lady Jane
February 2, 2011
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Bella44
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Who here has seen the movie Lady Jane with Helena Bonham Carter?

Despite its glaring historical inaccuracies (the invented love story between Jane and Guilford!) I kinda like it.  I thought Helena B C did a pretty good job and the costumes were amazing.  

What does everyone else think?

February 3, 2011
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I have this movie on DVD.  I thought it was an OK movie, like you say it had historical inaccuracies.  I would have liked to see them stick to the true story more when it came to the marriage of Jane and Guilford.  Also it would have been good to see a little more of Mary in the story and how she agonised if to execute Jane or not

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February 3, 2011
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I bought the movie from Amazon having never seen it, but wanting to add it to my collection of historical/costume dramas. I was fearful from some reviews I read about the film, but actually liked it. If you ignore the 1980's style clothing and hair, the story and acting is pretty good. I liked the first half of the film before the screenplay descends into a love story between Jane and Guilford.

Having said that, Helena Bonham-Carter is excellent as Jane. Her youth and innocence contrasts well with her rebellious nature. A good attempt at creating a complex Lady Jane. I wish she was more religiously devout and her marriage with Guilford more trying and difficult.

However, Cary Elwes was so cute! I loved him in The Princess Bride and loved him as Guildford Dudley.

All in all a good film. One I will watch again.

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February 3, 2011
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I have not seen it, but I have been eye-balling it on my Netflix suggestions–I'll be honest, I has turned off by the obviously 80's styling of the hair and influence over the costumes.  But I love Helen BC so I just add it to the queue anyway and just try to deal with the 1980's influences.

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February 3, 2011
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MegC said:

I have not seen it, but I have been eye-balling it on my Netflix suggestions–I'll be honest, I has turned off by the obviously 80's styling of the hair and influence over the costumes.  But I love Helen BC so I just add it to the queue anyway and just try to deal with the 1980's influences.


MegC,

Don't allow the 1980's style to make you avoid this film. Helena and Cary are so great that their acting takes away from some of the films faults. Lady Jane Grey's story is so fascinating that I forgave some of the downsides to the film. But, the changes do not irk me as many other Tudor dramas.

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February 3, 2011
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I didn't feel it was overly influenced by the 80's too much (apart from Cary Elwes' hair!)

I really liked Patrick Stewart as Jane's father but with her mother the makers couldn't help themselves and HAD to include the scene where she whips Jane for refusing to marry Guilford.

The part where Jane meets Mary in the long gallery was actually filmed in Hever Castle too! 

February 3, 2011
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I hated the whipping scene too. And the whole lovely-dovey styff…

It's always bunnies.

February 4, 2011
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Ok, you've convinced me!  I've added it to my Netflix queue.  

And, while we're at it, can someone please tell me how to pronounce  “Elwes”.  I've been trying to figure this out for years!!

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February 11, 2011
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I think the w is silent, but I'm not totally sure myself!

Hope you enjoy it Meg – I love the opening theme music, in fact the whole opening scenes' pretty cool, if overly heavy on the symbolism!

And some of the locations are lovely too (and properly authentic)

Would love to know what you think

May 9, 2011
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Just finished watching this gorgeous movie, after watching about 10 mins a night on my iPod touch. I really enjoyed it, and while I know the lovey-dovey stuff between Jane and Guilford was romanticised to the hilt I didn't mind it. In fact, I don't think I could have watched a whole movie with a strained relationship between the two. The romance definitely made the ending that more emotional for me.

The movie does suffer from early 1980s issues though. All those dramatic pauses, very little dialogue, but plenty of gorgeous sweeping music. It felt like I had to wait for about 60 minute until I heard a full sentence out of Lady Jane LOL.

Cary Elwes did a credible job with Guilford, transforming him from a spoilt little brat to a fictional romantic and loving husband. Helena Bonham Carter was incredible as Lady Jane, and I felt I really got an insight into the breif life of this often forgotten figure. The actress who played Mary I was really good and I personally felt the dilemma she had in executing a young girl that she didn't want to. All because she was desperate to get married and have a baby. Yeah yeah I now that's the simplified reason. LOL

There were a few instances where I thought they glossed over things too easily – Edward's will that got Jane to the throne and Jane's parents dramatic switch of opinion regarding their duaghter's fate.

But having said that I really enjoyed the movie and wish that it was available on DVD in Australia so it could sit nicely in my collection of Tudor DVDS. It really is the perfect 'joining' movie, linking The Tudors/Henry VIII And His Six Wives to Cate Blanchett's Elizabeth.

May 9, 2011
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I am glad that you liked the film, Bill. It is a little gem. I agree with your critique of some of the films issues, but they did not distract from the storyline. I agree the film glossed over some important and central issues. I love Helen Bonham Carter as Lady Jane. She's come a long way, but she remains a fantastic actress. Did you see her in “The King's Speech?” Fantastic!

I hope it comes out on DVD in Australia soon, but it's a great movies to add to any Tudor collection.

Cheers!

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May 9, 2011
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I LOVE the film Wink It may not be accurate or anything but I thought it's well acted and at times very moving.
Just sit back and enjoy it, isn't that what movies are all about Wink Wink

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May 9, 2011
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I love Helen Bonham Carter as Lady Jane. She's come a long way, but she remains a fantastic actress. Did you see her in “The King's Speech?” Fantastic!

She was fantastic in that film, and the way she carried her body, you could already see the Queen Mother that we all know. Too often, I just see her as that crazy actress, so it was nice to be reminded of her incredible talents which can be fully appreciated in a 'normal' role.

I forgot to mention that I was disappointed to see that there was no proper soundtrack release for Lady Jane, but after much googling I was able to find a site where the owner had compiled a selection of music into one track with only the occasional movie nosie present.

I too hope I can get the DVD one day, as I just can't manage to sit and watch a movie on an iPod for more than 10 minutes at a time. Plus i can only imagine how good it woud look and sound on a proper TV.

Watching the movie also made me wonder why the cinematic world hasn't given as an Edward VI movie or Mary I first movie. Mary is usually just trotted out to get Elizabeth on the throne, while Edward is usually only presented as the boy Henry needed, if that. So I am very glad that someone thought Jane's story was worth sharing with the mass public.

May 10, 2011
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Bill1978 said:

 

Watching the movie also made me wonder why the cinematic world hasn't given as an Edward VI movie or Mary I first movie. Mary is usually just trotted out to get Elizabeth on the throne, while Edward is usually only presented as the boy Henry needed, if that. So I am very glad that someone thought Jane's story was worth sharing with the mass public.


Bill, there is one! “The twisted tale of bloody Mary” is the first ever feature film about Mary Tudor and is a British Independent film by T.V. Choice Productions. I can't tell you if it's any good as I've yet to see it (I understand It's available on DVD), but I believe there is a trailer for it on YouTube (what isn't on YouTube!).

May 10, 2011
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Thanks Neil, going to hear over to YouTube to check it out, even if it does sound like a B-Grade Horror Movie

May 11, 2011
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Bill1978 said:

Thanks Neil, going to hear over to YouTube to check it out, even if it does sound like a B-Grade Horror Movie


For some reason when you wrote the words “B-Grade Horror Movie”, PG came into my brain, can't think why?!

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