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October 8, 2012
6:38 pm
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Sharon
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You have me there, Larry. New York is far more liberal than Kentucky. In fact, we are probably the second most liberal state after California. I’d like to keep it that way. But that doesn’t mean the Christian far right isn’t making inroads into NY politics. The last 12 years have certainly been scary for women. More laws to curtail their rights than you can shake a stick at. And yes, what has happened to separation of Church and State? Venting is good for one’s peace of mind. Wink Sorry if we got off track everyone!

October 9, 2012
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Olga said

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One thing you have to remember about Tudor England, was that wife-beating wasn’t considered to be anything less tham a husband’s right. No-one would have raised an eye-brow HAD George beaten Jane. That doesn’t mean I think George was a wife-beater, though.

Maybe he was and maybe he wasn’t, I don’t know for definate but to his contemparies he wouldn’t have been seen in that light. He would have been seen as doing ” the right thing”….

It’s different when it’s depicted in a television show Anyanka, because not everyone is beating or raping their wife in it, only George, to make him stand out. It was certainly not shown as common on the Tudors, as it may have been historically, therefore George still looks like a scumbag.

Well, yes of course. You have to have a designated villian. And George was possibly the most perfect fall-guy for that, given his revision by Warnicke.

I was mildly surprised he wasn’t twisting his mustaches while crackling” I have you now, my beauty”..and tying Jane to a traintrack…

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October 9, 2012
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Sharon said

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In so many ways I’m glad to be bringing up the little venenge demons in the 21st century. Though some of the things I’m reading about the extreme religious right in USA makes me worry at times.

You worry about the religious right in the US, Anyanka? They scare me silly. I feel like I have taken multiple steps backwards sometimes! Yell

There’s a few politicans up here who are flirting with similar ideas though…

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October 9, 2012
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Barnettbuff said

Sharon~

If you are worried living in New York — try to think what it’s like living in “THE BIBLE BELT”! Scary doesn’t begin to describe it! For example: The Wet/Dry issue has been raging in this area for about 10 years. We just passed the “Packaged Stores” question, a few months back. We’ve only had liquor By-the-drink for about 7-8 years. That’s how far behind this area is. Still have “Blue Laws” meaning we cannot buy drinks or bottles on SUNDAY, all bars are closed, and no drinks in restaurants — and people talk about the separation of Church and State???????? OK, I’m through ventingYell

We had the choice of moving to Tenn a few years ago. When we went down for a visit, nearly every-one we met wanted to know which church we were planning to attend even though we are not religious at all.

Then there was a push enroll our children in VBS and other religious based stuff before we actually moved in.

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October 9, 2012
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Anyanka said

I was mildly surprised he wasn’t twisting his mustaches while crackling” I have you now, my beauty”..and tying Jane to a traintrack…

Laugh

October 9, 2012
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I’ve just read on a facebook page a question as to which Tudor ‘scoundrel’ you would invite for dinner. George Boleyn’s name came up frequently………deep and heavy sigh.Cry

October 9, 2012
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Louise said

I’ve just read on a facebook page a question as to which Tudor ‘scoundrel’ you would invite for dinner. George Boleyn’s name came up frequently………deep and heavy sigh.Cry

Yell

October 9, 2012
12:07 pm
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At least they want to invite George to dinner, so they obviously dont think he is that mch of a scoundrel.

October 9, 2012
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George would be welcome to share my dinner, and I should imagine he would take centre stage.

Semper Fidelis, quod sum quod

October 9, 2012
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Perhaps she would not be considered a ‘scoundrel’ , but I’d have to invite Mary Boleyn. So many questions I’d like to ask her. I’d really like to see her reputation recovered from so much speculation concerning her behavior. However the dinner turned out with the questioning, it would be an unforgetable experience. I almost answered “Ole Henry” himself, but I’m afraid my emotional state could not survive a two hour dinner with such an overpowering, dynamic personality as his. Frown

October 9, 2012
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I don’t get that list of scoundrels on that FB page, it also includes Robert Dudley, John Dee, Thomas Wyatt, oh and ” Jane, George Boleyn’s snitching wife” – face palm! None of those seem like scoundrels to me but oh well.

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October 9, 2012
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I know this is going very off topic, but what do you think George looked like? I’ve always thought of him as being dark like Anne.

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October 9, 2012
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I’ve always pictured him as being darker than Mary but not as dark as Anne. And he would have followed court fashion with regard to his hair and whether or not he was clean-shaven or bearded.

But he certainly had Anne’s charm and va-va-voom. His je ne sais quoi was like Anne’s rather than Mary.

Since I discovered that Jane Seymour shared a great-grandmother with the Boleyn siblings and Kathryn Howard, I’ve been wondering more about Jane. Was there a similar type of quality about her to the allure that the Howard cousin shared? Why did she suddenly capitivate Henry so much? Did her backers see something other than a pilant, quietly modest woman?

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October 10, 2012
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In my mind George Boleyn is always dark. Because he and Anne were so alike in their outlook I suppose there is a leaning to think they were alike in looks too. He was certainly handsome so Cavendish says. He’s clean shaven in my mind too, but again that’s probably because I prefer clean shaven men. I do wonder, taking into account different generations perceptions of beauty, whether we would consider him handsome?

October 10, 2012
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George to me would tall and muscular, with dark brown hair and hazel eyes, and be very gentle and caring. I can see him standing up when a lady enters the room, and opening doors for a lady etc.. I think that any woman around him would feel very safe and relaxed.

Semper Fidelis, quod sum quod

October 10, 2012
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I think of George as being dark, and always smiling. Speaking of FB. The other day I saw a newly discovered portrait of a young man, but there was no name attached to it. The poster was wondering if it could have been George. Did anyone else see it? I’ve looked for it since and can’t seem to find it.
Claire,
Oh-oh! I was one of those who put Robert Dudley in that FB post. Shoot me now! Surprised I was thinking that I would love to be at a dinner that he was at. And he was a bit of a scamp. Elizabeth wouldn’t have loved him otherwise. He did go behind her back and marry Lettice. Anyway, that’s what I was thinking at the time.
No, Louise, I didn’t put George’s name there!

October 10, 2012
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Bang! Shot you, Sharon!

Don’t worry, I understand, and yes he was a bit of a scamp.

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October 10, 2012
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Claire said

Bang! Shot you, Sharon!

Don’t worry, I understand, and yes he was a bit of a scamp.

LOL! Wink You missed!

October 11, 2012
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Yell Blow!

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October 12, 2012
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Bang! Bang! (Head on desk)

The first comment I received on The AB Files Facebook page about the George Boleyn: Saint or Sinner article was “Just another pimp like his father and uncle.” Now, I don’t blame the poster at all, and she’s entitled to her opinion anyway, but it just goes to show what damage fiction does. Off to boil my head now!

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