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9:14 pm
April 20, 2010
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What was Henry's point of bestowing her this honor?
10:28 pm
November 18, 2010
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A couple of reasons. 2 family reasons
1) The Earl of Pembroke was the title of Jasper Tudor, H8's great uncle.
2) H7 was born in Pembroke.
and one specific to Anne
3) H8 was giving land, money and power into Anne's possession should Henry die before thier marriage to give her and her “heirs male” protection.
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4) Henry wanted Anne to have a rank when they went to Calais to meet with Francois and his court.
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8:27 am
April 20, 2010
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This was the only way to do that? I mean, aren't titles reserved for males?
And wonder what happened to the title after she died? Did it go to Elizabeth? And why create this position? If anything, wouldn't he have made her a Duke? I thought that a Dukedom was the highest position under the king?
3:35 am
October 12, 2010
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Henry could bestow titles and lands on whoever he deemed fit. Of course, being that Tudor England was a male-dominated society, those titles almost exclusively went to men. Anne was not however the first woman to have had a title and lands in her own right. I'm a bit fuzzy on the details because I read about it so long ago, but I know there had definitely been one woman (possibly two) prior to her that were given titles in their own right.
11:58 am
November 18, 2010
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Kim said:
Henry could bestow titles and lands on whoever he deemed fit. Of course, being that Tudor England was a male-dominated society, those titles almost exclusively went to men. Anne was not however the first woman to have had a title and lands in her own right. I'm a bit fuzzy on the details because I read about it so long ago, but I know there had definitely been one woman (possibly two) prior to her that were given titles in their own right.
One of Edward's household ladies was created a baron by H8 because of her care for Edward as a child.I can't remember who ATM and I've tidied away my books….
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4:51 pm
June 7, 2010
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Kim said:
Henry could bestow titles and lands on whoever he deemed fit. Of course, being that Tudor England was a male-dominated society, those titles almost exclusively went to men. Anne was not however the first woman to have had a title and lands in her own right. I'm a bit fuzzy on the details because I read about it so long ago, but I know there had definitely been one woman (possibly two) prior to her that were given titles in their own right.
I could find only two women in England who held titles suo jure (in his/her own right):
Isabel de Clare (1172-1220) Countess of Pembroke and Striguil and Henrietta Godolphin (1681-1733) Duchess of Marlborough.
Isabel de Clare was an ancestor to Anne Boleyn. Henrietta Godolphin was an ancetor to Winston Churchill. Intersting stuff!
"By daily proof you shall find me to be to you both loving and kind" Anne Boleyn
3:51 am
October 12, 2010
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Thanks for the clarification! I couldn't remember for the life of me!
9:04 pm
October 31, 2010
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Yeah, I think it had something to do with making Anne seem more “legitimate”, since she was a commoner. Interesting that he didn't bestow titles on Katherine Howard or Jane Seymour (her brothers, but not her). There are a lot of things that Anne got that her successors didn't.
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12:22 pm
August 3, 2010
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MegC: …which brings me to my belief that Anne was truly the love of Henry's life.
But, to clarify: the most important reason why Henry bestowed upon Anne her title was because he was going to take her to Calais and, for all purposes, pretend she was his Queen. He wanted her to seem worthy of this because he knew that the Queen of France disliked her and supported KoA (the result was that only the men from the French Court came, which was very embarrassing for Anne since she only had her English ladies as company).
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