Mary Boleyn – Was She really the Mistress of Francis I?

Posted By on October 30, 2011

Francis I pointing out Mary to Henry VIII: "I call Mary my English Mare because I ride her so often".

As many of you know, I led a webinar on Thursday night for members of The Anne Boleyn Fellowship. The webinar, which was the second in my series on “The REAL Boleyns”, consisted of an hour long talk and slideshow on Mary Boleyn, based on my research into her life. I obviously won’t be sharing the content of the webinar here, as it was a members-only event, but I want to address an issue that I keep coming across in my research into the Boleyn family: assumptions and theories being written about as fact.

I wrote a few weeks ago about Galadriel’s words in “The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring”: “And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost. History became legend. Legend became myth”; well, in the case of the Boleyns it would be more accurate to say “Myth became history”. One example of this is the ‘fact’ that Mary Boleyn had a sexual relationship with Francis I (François I).

I have read many many books on Henry VIII, Anne Boleyn, Tudor history and when it comes to Mary Boleyn all but one of them has assumed that she slept with the French king, although they point out that she was never his official mistress, a maîtress-en-titre like Françoise de Foix. That Mary was the mistress of two kings is a fact according to the history books.

Now, you know what I’m like – yes, Hercule Poirot and Miss Marple have nothing on me, I blame it on reading far too many Agatha Christie’s as a teenager – when something is assumed to be a fact I have to find the primary evidence to prove it. So, whenever I found a sentence saying that Mary slept with Francis I I looked to see if the author or historian cited a reference or primary source so that I could go and check it for myself. Hallelujah, some historians actually did cite their sources! And the three that kept coming up were:-

  1. Rodolfo Pio the Bishop of Faenza’s letter to Prothonotary Ambrogio on the 10th March 1536 (LP x.450):-
    “Francis said also that they are committing more follies than ever in England, and are saying and printing all the ill they can against the Pope and the Church; that “that woman” pretended to have miscarried of a son, not being really with child, and, to keep up the deceit, would allow no one to attend on her but her sister, whom the French king knew here in France ‘per una grandissima ribalda et infame sopre tutte.’” – Here Faenza is claiming that Anne Boleyn did not miscarry a son in January 1536 but that she pretended to be pregnant and was helped by her sister, Mary, who the French king “knew” (in the Biblical way) for “a great prostitute and infamous above all”.
  2. Nicholas Sander’s words in “Rise and Growth of the English Schism” (1585):-
    “Soon afterwards she appeared at the French court where she was called the English Mare, because of her shameless behaviour; and then the royal mule, when she became acquainted with the King of France.”
  3. Lord Herbert of Cherbury in “Life and Raigne of King Henry the Eighth” (1649) who quotes William Rastall, author of a biography of Sir Thomas More (c1557), who wrote of how Anne Boleyn was sent to France where “she behav’d herself so licentiously, that she was vulgarly call’d the Hackney of England, till being adopted to that King’s familiarity, she was termed his Mule.”

These are the only pieces of evidence cited in the history books I read that prove that Mary Boleyn was indeed the mistress of Francis I. Now, in her latest book, “Mary Boleyn: ‘The Great and Infamous Whore’”, Alison Weir challenges the idea that Mary Boleyn slept around at the French court, but I would like to go one step further and challenge the ‘fact’ that Mary Boleyn even slept with Francis I. I want to question the validity of the above three pieces of evidence for the following reasons:-

  • Rodolfo Pio, Bishop of Faenza, was a papal nuncio at the court of Francis I and was therefore biased against the evangelical Boleyns who had caused Henry VIII to break with Rome. Like the Imperial ambassador, Eustace Chapuys, he does not even attempt to hide his disdain for Anne Boleyn, calling her “that woman” instead of “the Queen”.
  • We do not know that Pio was reporting Francis I’s words accurately and we do not know whether Francis I was exaggerating or lying in an attempt to denigrate the Boleyn name.
  • We know that the first part of Pio’s report is not true so why believe the second part? Pio claims that Anne Boleyn was never pregnant, and was lying, but we know from reports, such as the one by Chapuys where he states that Anne miscarried a “male child which she had not borne 3½ months” and also from Charles Wriothesley’s chronicle, that Anne did miscarry a baby on the 29th January 1536. How can we take Pio’s words seriously then?
  • Nicholas Sander and William Rastall are referring to Anne Boleyn, not Mary – Philippa Jones, in “The Other Mistresses: Henry VIII’s Mistresses and Bastards”, writes “Since these comments are obviously not applicable to Anne [i.e. we know she wasn't sent to France in disgrace at the age of 15]… it has been assumed that they must apply to Mary when, in truth, they were written to discredit Anne and are largely based on vulgar invention, aimed simply at damaging her reputation.”
  • Both Sander and Rastall were Catholics and therefore biased against the Boleyns – Rastall was writing a sympathetic biography of Sir Thomas More and Sander was a Catholic recusant writing in exile during Elizabeth I’s reign. We can also see that Sander’s words were obviously based on those of Rastall.
  • Sander also wrote that Anne Boleyn had a projecting tooth, six fingers and a wen under her chin, and that she slept with her father’s chaplain and butler before being sent to France in disgrace. We don’t believe that do we, so why would we believe that the “English Mare” comment is true but that it refers to Mary?

It really does amaze me that historians dismiss such ‘evidence’ when it comes to Anne Boleyn but are quite willing to believe it when it comes to Mary? It doesn’t make sense, does it? Talk about double standards!

We also have to ask ourselves if Henry VIII would have chosen to sleep with a woman who had been the mistress of Francis I and who had such a dubious reputation.

I’m not saying that Mary Boleyn definitely did not have a sexual relationship with Francis I, but I’m challenging the widespread assumption that she did. The evidence is scant when it comes to Mary Boleyn, her whereabouts at various times in her life, her character, what she got up to in France etc. so wouldn’t it be better for us to hold our hands up and say “look, there are blanks in her life, we just don’t know what she did” or to make it clear when we are hypothesising, rather than perpetuating myth and legend when we fill in the blanks? So, I’m going out on a limb and saying that I won’t believe that Mary did sleep with Francis I unless I see conclusive evidence of it!

The more I read about the Boleyns, the more I realise just how much they have been maligned. Things have swung in Anne Boleyn’s favour, with people questioning the validity of works such as that of Nicholas Sander, but some are still willing to believe myths when it comes down to Thomas and Elizabeth Boleyn, Mary, George and Jane Boleyn. Don’t believe everything you read, is what I’ve learned, question everything.

Notes and Sources

  • LP x.450
  • “Rise and Growth of the English Schism”, Nicholas Sander (1585), p25
  • “The Life and Raigne of King Henry the Eighth”, the Right Honourable Edward, Lord Herbert of Cherbury (1649), p258-259
  • LP x.284, Chapuys
  • “The Other Mistresses: Henry VIII’s Mistresses and Bastards”, Philippa Jones, p106
  • Works by David Starkey, David Loades, Alison Weir, Kelly Hart, Marie Louise Bruce, Retha Warnicke, Paul Friedmann, Elizabeth Norton, Josephine Wilkinson, Eric Ives, Antonia Fraser…

Comments

34 Responses to “Mary Boleyn – Was She really the Mistress of Francis I?”

  1. Elliemarianna says:

    I think she allowed her heart to rule her head, hence the fact she married for love not money. If she were Francis’ mistress, and after that Henry’s, I can imagine that she had had enough of being used by the men at court, so chose a man who wasn’t controlled by his cod piece. Anyway – Like Starkey said, most promiscuous women are the most loving, so maybe that’s why she was happiest in the end – she found love and ignored the riches.

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    Claire Reply:

    The thing is, Elliemarianna, that there is no evidence at all that she was promiscuous, she’s a real mystery. One of the things we do know about her, though, was that she married William Stafford for love – the evidence is the letter she wrote to Cromwell – so she was brave enough to go against her family and incur their wrath.

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  2. Tiula says:

    I think she was almost certainly very naive when it came to courtly love, and as such gained a reputation for having many relationships. She was a bit of a flirt and not at all discreet in the way that was expected of a highborn lady. Whether or not she actually had sexual relations with Francis will, I believe, always remain a mystery, but we do have some clues.

    She attended the French court along with her sister, but a few years later, a ship only reports ONE Boleyn girl returning. It is possible that this was a mistake, however, given that Anne was later recorded as returning a few years later with the King’s sister Mary, it was probably Mary who was the “Mistress Bollein” who returned early.

    Rumour has it that this was due to her scandalous behaviour in France – a rumour certainly supported by the fact that she quickly became Henry’s mistress. Personally, I think she may have had a reputation for indiscreet flirting with gentlemen, but probably no more than that. It is, of course, possible that Francis himself made up the jokes about her promiscuity, but I consider that unlikely.

    Anyway, I enjoyed the article. Thanks!

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    Claire Reply:

    Hi Tiula,
    You’re right in that we just don’t know how long Mary was in France for. She’s recorded as escorting Mary Tudor to France in 1514 and being one of the lucky ones retained after Louis XII dismissed a lot of Mary’s entourage, but we don’t know what happened to her when Mary Tudor returned to England in 1515 with Charles Brandon. David Loades writes of her serving Queen Claude with her sister Anne, others have her joining Catherine of Aragon’s household in England… we just don’t know as there are no records to back these theories up. We know that Francis I ‘tried it on’ with Mary Tudor after Louis’s death so perhaps he also ‘tried it on’ with members of her household but there is not one jot of real, concrete evidence that Mary flirted with him, slept with him or was promiscuous at the French court.

    As far as “the fact that she quickly became Henry’s mistress”, we also don’t know the ins and outs of that relationship, how long she’d been at court etc. Weir points out that Henry riding out with the motto “Elle mon coeur a navera”, “she has wounded my heart”, means that his love was unrequited and that Mary may have rejected him for some time. Although she doesn’t go as far as claiming Mary was raped, Weir does say that she thinks Mary was forced to submit to the King and that she was not a willing mistress.

    What I haven’t seen in the records is any evidence of Mary being a flirt or behaving in a scandalous manner. Her relationship with Henry VIII was very discreet. I think she has been badly maligned.

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  3. Lexy says:

    I’m maybe playing the French passionaria there, but the things Francis said are kind of unlike him… I mean he was known to be gallant and chivalrous toward women, even the one he bedded… He respected his mother, wife and sister, and oncesaid that a Court without women was a garden without flowers…

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    Claire Reply:

    Yes, it could be a case of a papal nuncio putting words into Francis I’s mouth.

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    miladyblue Reply:

    Is it also possible that this was a smear campaign, not only against the reputation of the Boleyns, but also Francis I himself? He and Henry were rivals, sometimes even at war with one another, and what better way to put one over on a rival and/or enemy than to smear him?

    Mary Boleyn, whatever her true level of chastity, was an easy target – though connected to the Howards, including the Duke of Norfolk, the Boleyns were not very high ranked at the time. And like Anne, Mary might have been flirty, which much more conservative minded officials could have viewed as “loose,” or “promiscuous.” Of course, considering she was part of the evangelical Boleyn family, it would have been nice to twist this flirty reputation, which the conservative types could crow about, “proving” that the Reformer movement was going down a bad path, and that Reform meant the Reformer’s women were becoming harlots, due to lack of guidance from the TRUE Church.

    Then, too, though Francis did protect his sister Marguerite from heresy charges, even though she was writing and publishing VERY controversial works. So making him out to be such a crude, ill mannered cad might have made sense to the conservatives. After all, was Marguerite, (in their minds) actually writing and publishing her works as a cover for Francis’ own evangelical interests, and using her as a cover for his own authorship?

    As Lexy points out, Francis was known to be cultured, well mannered and gallant – the “English Mare” and “mule” comments sound like crude boasting out of the equivalent of a Tudor era locker room. Or it could be that it was something made up to blacken the reputation of Mary and Anne, “putting words in his mouth.” Francis was a rival/sometimes enemy to Henry, what better person to use as an “authority” in this case, of the lack of chastity for Mary and Anne?

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  4. Nikki says:

    My first post here! I’ve been reading the articles for months though!
    Sometimes I think that we fill in the blanks on people like Mary Boleyn because we want to know more about them, but there simply isn’t enough evidence to know for sure. We have theories that we want to think are true, so we make them true based on what we have. Its possible that Mary was Francis I’s mistress, but I agree that there is reason to doubt it, also. I think its so sad that the entire Boleyn family has been horribly misrepresented for so long! These articles make me think and want to know more and more.

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    Claire Reply:

    Welcome, Nikki!
    I had always assumed that Mary had definitely been Francis I’s mistress because that’s what it says in the history books but it’s only by checking the sources that I’ve come to doubt this. It’s funny what we assume and take as fact and I’ve definitely learned to question everything now. I think I’m becoming rather cynical!!

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  5. Louise says:

    I think this is a wonderful article, and particularly relevant at the moment. I have always fudged the issue of Mary and Francis. Although I question her reputation and refer to her ‘alleged’ relationship with Francis due to the fact there is so little evidence to support it, I never really made much of an effort to seriously challenge Mary’s alleged reputation, unlike a certain Mrs C Ridgway who is proving to be a far superior historian than many of those she writes about. Well done, Sherlock! x

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    Claire Reply:

    As I said to Nikki, I think I’m becoming a bit too cynical now, I’m finding it hard to trust anything I read and that is affecting my enjoyment of books! I feel so strongly about the Boleyn family, not just Anne, so I’m determined to get to the truth, unfortunately, with Mary, the truth means a lot of blanks. If you peel away the so called facts, that are assumptions rather than facts, then you really haven’t got that much!
    He he, Sherlock, Poirot, Miss Marple, Lynley, Scarpetta…., they’ve got nothing on me lol! I always knew that my love of crime novels would have a use some day!

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  6. anne barnhill says:

    I have long wondered about Mary and Francis. When Francis bragged to Henry at Field of Cloth of Gold, the competition between them was fierce-each wanted to best the other. I have wondered if Francis noticed Henry looking at Mary and, to get one-up, said he’d ‘ridden her like a mule.’ A very crude, insulting comment but, if Mary had actually rejected Francis, a young man m ight just say such a thing as revenge. I mean, they were in their early 20′s. They wrestled, their courtiers jousted, they really wanted to prove their mettle. What better way that to brag one had bedded a beautiful woman? But of course, we know men never do such things! :)

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    Aynne Reply:

    Anne, I think this is very true about the temperaments of these rival kings. So much happened at the Field of the Cloth of Gold, that anything is possible. I would be inclined to think, however, that had Francis had his way with Mary at that event, it would not have benefitted the Boleyns well, and I would think Henry’s ego would see this as a sign of disloyalty on the part of Mary and/or her family. Of course, it is possible that the penance for this and payback to Francis might be to have Mary as the English Royal Mistress, but I think that would have hit the history books or gossiping letters of the time.

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  7. Tamar says:

    Claire, you are a model of the type of scepticism all historians should have about traditional assumptions (so often myths without evidence). You remind me–not unsurprisingly–of Eric Ives, another superb skeptic when it comes to previously received knowledge (I’m thinking here of his work on Lady Jane Grey as well as his book on Anne Boleyn).

    I think the simple reason so many people want to believe Mary slept around was because it is juicy and sensational–much more fun than the blank space that most of her life really is as a historical record.

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    Claire Reply:

    Wow, I take that as a huge compliment, to be compared to Eric Ives, thank you. You’re right, we do love salacious rumours!

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  8. Catherine says:

    Claire… You should seriously concider to write a book or something!

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    Claire Reply:

    I’m actually working on a book proposal at the moment, Catherine! :)

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  9. Shoshana says:

    Once again,Claire, you have given us much to contemplate and much to research on our own! I believe we are looking at the next celebrated historian author who will go on to inspire a new generation of history sleuths – much like J.K. Rowling did inspiring children to read.

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  10. Sarah says:

    *Shakes fist* Darn you Claire for doing this to me! I’ve been thinking about your comments regarding Mary’s relationship with Francois I since the webinar. My theory tends to lean towards the idea that Mary did in fact sleep with Francois, but perhaps only once or twice at most. I don’t see why Rodolfo Pio would have to say such a horrible thing about Mary when he’s already insulted Anne so deeply. But then, perhaps it was to add insult to injury – the more insults the merrier perhaps?!

    I’m starting to think that Nicholas Sander and William Rastall, since their comments were made at such later dates, had picked up on the comment by Pio and were referring to that with their flanderous mare statements about Anne. (Sorry again, how do we know these comments were about Anne?)

    In regards to Henry… that is the trickiest subject of them all. Certainly if Mary attended the Field of the Cloth of Gold, Francis would have said something to Henry if he had seen her about “enjoying her company” – what happens at the French court surley would get out and about. It is hard for me not to think Henry knew. Maybe he wanted to see what all the fuss about Mary was?

    Oh Claire you cannot do this to me! It’s Monday morning and I must go to work but all I want to do is learn more about this! As I said I’ve been thinking about this subject of Francois quite a bit since the webinar and really there is so little proof! It’s frustrating! Darn you Mary Boleyn! :P

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  11. Matterhorn says:

    I am glad you are skeptical about such matters, Claire, and that you make such an effort to sift through the evidence and present it to us without ‘juicing up’ the story. All too many people seem eager to believe lurid tales without taking the trouble to verify the facts, and all too many authors cater to this taste for sensationalism, as others here have noted.

    I do think it is a pity we don’t know more for sure about Anne’s sister, and also about their mother, who seems quite a shadowy figure.

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  12. Sheena says:

    Once again, you go on to use logic and contemporary evidence to challenge what had been considered a fact of history for so long! Way to go! One question that has always bothered me was a claim that Phillippa Gregory made while marketing TOBG- did Henry VIII really have a ship in his fleet called, “The Mary Boleyn?” If so, was it something that was purchased from Thomas Boleyn? I haven’t been able to find anything about it.

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    Claire Reply:

    Thanks, Sheena! The “Mary Boleyn” ship is mentioned in the latest David Loades book, “The Boleyns”:-
    “The ‘Mary Boleyn’ was a vessel of 100 tons, which was deployed in the Irish Sea in September 1523, and appears to have been a royal ship which the King named after his mistress. Unfortunately, no such ship appears in the King’s inventories of the time; the only vessel of 100 tons in service with the navy was the ‘Katherine Pleasaunce’, which had been built in 1518. We are therefore left with the intriguing possibility that Henry renamed a ship originally called after his wife in honour of his mistress! More mundanely it is possible that the ‘Mary Boleyn’ belonged to Sir Thomas, and had been ‘taken up’ for some particular service in Irish waters.” Loades cites LP iii.3358:-
    ” “The NAVY on the sea between Wales and Ireland.”
    Declaration of Sir Ant. Poyntz, Vice-admiral, of expenses from 8 April 14 Hen. VIII. to 23 Sept. 15 Hen. VIII.
    Received from John Jenyns, 1 Mar. 14 Hen. VIII., 2,741l. 3s. 4d.; from Sir Rys ap Thomas, 17 Sept. 15 Hen. VIII., 66l. 13s. 4d.; from Sir John Daunce, 100l. Total, 2,807l. 16s. 8d.
    Paid for the Mynyon: Wages of Sir Anthony Poyntz, 6s. 8d. a day; one master, one pilot, 50 soldiers, 60 mariners, and 10 gunners, at 5s. a month; 19 dedshares, at 5s. a month; one surgeon, at 10s. a month. Rewards to gunners, 6l. 5s. Victualling, 16d. a week each man for the first four months, 18d. for the remainder. Total, 481l. 15s.—The George of Fowey, 120 tons, Geo. Whitwayne, capt., 89 men, tonnage 6l. a month. Total, 357l. 7s.—The Christopher Arundell, 90 tons, Geo. Audeley, capt., 59 men, 250l. 7s.—The Mathew of Bristowe, 160 tons, Robt. Appleyard, capt., 99 men, 404l. 0s. 4d.—The Mary Boleyn, 100 tons, Wm. Symonds, capt., 79 men, 352l. 8s. 6½d.—The Berk of Truluff, 80 tons, Peter Grisley, capt., 59 men, 271l. 13s. 11¾d. The Mawdelen and Michell of Bristowe, and the Mary Galeye, 180 tons, Wm. Throgmorton and Hewe Clerk, capts., 118 men, 494l. 18s. 2d.—The Mawdeleyn of Pole, 120 tons, Robt. Kirk, capt., 79 men, 264l. 9s. 0½d.—The John of Grenewiche, Gabriel Joslyn, capt., 50 men, 160l. 1s. 1½d.”

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  13. Dawn says:

    Mary, what an enigma she is, it is such a shame little fact is known of her.
    I guess we will never know for sure if she was the French Kings mistress, certainly every book I have read always deems her to have been, true or not
    Anyway it seems that Henry and Francis took great pleasure in getting one over on each other , maybe Francis made the comment about Mary to wind Henry up, if he said it at all.
    Too be honest I don’t think Henry would mind that Mary was Francis lover first, with his huge ego, being the ‘best’ at all things, I am sure when it came to pillow talk with Mary and she answered his question with great honesty, :) ‘Oh yer babe you were soooo much better than him’, it would have suited him just fine, lol….:()

    Talking about Marys though, Claire, remember the nursey rhyme,’Mary, Mary, quite contrary’, just as a piece of trivia, google it and look at the meanings put forward for it, many are to do with Tudor history, thought it might interest you and others.

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  14. Sylvia Genders says:

    I’m wondering if there might be anything in the French court documents that might shed some light on Mary while at the French court…?

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  15. Kellie says:

    Heya! I have always read your blog and love the fact that you challenge the norm in search of the truth. I agree with you about mary- it is very circumstantial evidence to say the least. I always questioned it personally because Mary proved that she had no difficulty having children- nor did Francis for that matter. if they were together in that way, then based on their fertility, chances are he would have fathered a child with her, and as far as we know, he didn’t. Very interesting topic! Keep up the good work!

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  16. Baroness Von Reis says:

    Anne was very put her fist down that she would not be used as the Kings whore,like her sister was used.The King was not use to hearing No,Mary gave to the King what the King whats he shall have enter Anne .Mary who?

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  17. Lexy says:

    Another thing I just thought of: Francis, like Henry IV and Louis XIV was known to shower his mistresses with presents, and not onlysmall presents, rich jewels, castles, titles… Even when he broke with them, they left with a”little” someting. Are there records of such things offered to Mary?

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  18. Ashley says:

    I haven’t read much about Mary Boleyn so I am not sure if to believe that she did sleep with Francis I or not. If she did sleep with Francis maybe she wasn’t looked on as his official mistress because maybe he didn’t love her enough as he did the other lady who he made his official mistress I mean that could be a possibility couldn’t it? Or perhaps she wasn’t in France long enough? But one thing I am sure of is that I know that she did sleep with Henry VIII and perhaps had his children.

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  19. Anne Barnhill says:

    First, Claire, I’m THRILLED you are writing a book–I know it will be wonderful and filled with facts well-researched and a fresh, new view of the subject!! Bravo!
    Ashley, I am interested in this idea of Mary’s having kids. If she’d been Francis’ lover, wouldn’t a child have been a likely outcome? Once she married, she did give birth (and I think at least one child, Katherine, was very probably Henry’s) but there is no record of her having any kids in France, so I put the whole Francis deal as mostly male brag and the slander of those who hated Anne and the changes she brought to England–they blamed her rather then Henry, for those changes to the church. I guess only Mary will know for sure, though…so we are left wondering! Oh, I’m still so excited about Claire’s book!!!

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  20. lisaannejane says:

    I am glad you are challenging this belief about Mary. I was wondering why everyone was so sure that she had an affair with Francis. Must wonder what the evidence is to support that. Keep up your inner Agatha Christie. I am so impressed that you are challenging assumptions that have been made for a long time. Time to find some proof or lacking any, then lose the belief that Mary had an affair with Francis as a fact, not a guess based on no good primary sources.

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  21. lisaannejane says:

    oops, I meant to say that without any evidence then Mary’s affair is an educated guess at best but not a historical fact

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  22. I think the most compelling information about Mary Boleyn is the sheer lack of contemporary discussion about her in either France w/Francois or England w/Henry. Whatever she was doing, with whomever, it caused no stir at the time–and later, well, it could be anything. So I tend to agree with Weir. (see blog post at thehistorylady.wordpress for my comments on Weir’s book)

    But–I am not sure I buy that the Boleyns were misunderstood. I do buy that they were upwardly mobile Reformers whose power threatened other up-and-comers. And much as I love Anne Boleyn’s story, she is a study in how things fall apart.

    Love this blog.
    Geri, The History Lady

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  23. Bridgett says:

    OMG! I have been reading your articles every night this week, and I NEVER get to bed on time…. I love them.

    Always so informative, and it’s nice to be where others share the same passion as I do.

    My thoughts here, if Mary did sleep with Francois …. it was not because she wanted to. Let’s face it, if a King wanted you. I don’t think it would matter much if it were the French King, or the English King. Women were owned by the men in their lives. They were all just pawns in a game of chess. <3 for Mary

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    Bridgett Reply:

    I guess it didn’t print correctly, but it was suppose to read “if a King wanted you, he had you.”

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