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"Tudor Era" a Myth says Oxford Historian
May 29, 2012
5:35 am
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Anyanka
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/educ…..n-18240901

Cliff Davies says his research shows the term “Tudor” was barely ever used during the time of Tudor monarchs.

There are also suggestions the name was downplayed by Tudor royals because of its associations with Wales.

It's always bunnies.

May 29, 2012
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Interesting theory and one that I could see as being very plausible. But I don’t see anything wrong with historians applying the name retroactively. Pretty sure humans weren’t wandering around talking about living in the Stone Age or the Bronze Age.

May 29, 2012
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Personally, I think the man is nit-picking. Does he expect everyone to say “the people of the time of Henry VII, Henry VIII and Elizabeth I” rather than just using the word “Tudor”? Ridiculous. Maybe it wasn’t used at the time, but that doesn’t make it invalid for use later.

May 29, 2012
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I agree Janet. The term Tudor like the term Plantaganant was used as a term to describe the Kings, and Queens that belonged to that particular period of history.. It was in effect the surname of the ruling house. Just as today’s ruling house is know as Windsor.
The Royal families name was orinigally the house of Saxe-Coburg Gotha from the time of Victoria’s marriage to Albert who as we know was Prince of that region in Germany, so as we know woman at the time too their husbands name as their married name. Hence Victoria was Princess Victoria of Saxe- Coburg and Gotha, as well as being Queen of England etc.. The name was change to Windsor on the 17th July 1917, due to a lot of anti German feeling against the Royal family, from the populus.
So the Name change was done to stamp on the people of Britain that just because they had German ancestry they didn’t agree with what Germany was doing and that they were all for Britain come hell or high water.
This is the speech that George V made about the name change..
Now, therefore, We, out of Our Royal Will and Authority, do hereby declare and announce that as from the date of this Our Royal Proclamation Our House and Family shall be styled and known as the House and Family of Windsor, and that all the descendants in the male line of Our said Grandmother Queen Victoria who are subjects of these Realms, other than female descendants who may marry or may have married, shall bear the said Name of Windsor…

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May 29, 2012
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Does he think people who lived during WW I went around calling it WW I in full expection that there would be another WW?
The people who lived in the middle ages called themselves ‘middle agers’ did they?
Or those of the Roman Empire called themselves Ancient Romans?
Did the neanderthals call themselves ‘cavemen’???
Some people just pick at nits for a bit of attention, shave his head and paint it blue I say.

Let us show them that they are hares and foxes trying to rule over dogs and wolves - Boudica addressing the tribes Circa AD60

May 29, 2012
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Bill, LOL.
Obviously Davies is a researcher with too much time on his hands. The joined Lancaster/York era? Oh yes, that just roles right off the tongue.

May 29, 2012
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Maggyann said

Does he think people who lived during WW I went around calling it WW I in full expection that there would be another WW?

At the time and until WWII, it was known as the Great War or the War to end all Wars.

It's always bunnies.

May 29, 2012
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Anyanka said

Maggyann said

Does he think people who lived during WW I went around calling it WW I in full expection that there would be another WW?

At the time and until WWII, it was known as the Great War or the War to end all Wars.

I wish.. It seems to be nothing but conflict between countries and people at the moment. It’s maddening as well.

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May 30, 2012
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Anyanka said

Maggyann said

Does he think people who lived during WW I went around calling it WW I in full expection that there would be another WW?

At the time and until WWII, it was known as the Great War or the War to end all Wars.

Very true. In the same way, Elizabeth I wasn’t referred to as Elizabeth I until 1952.

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