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Mary Tudor's Heart
October 23, 2013
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Bella44
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This morning I was reading an article on a NZ news website about the christening of little Prince George which took place in the Chapel Royal at St James’ Palace. Whilst giving a brief history of the chapel, it mentioned that Mary Tudor’s (Queen Mary I) heart was buried under the chancel step. I know that when Mary died, her heart and bowels were removed and her body lay in state in St James’ Palace but this is the first time I’ve heard that her heart is still buried there.

Anyone know if this is correct?

October 23, 2013
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Boleyn
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I am not too sure about this Bella, but I think she asked for her heart to be buried with her mother.
If that is right it doesn’t seem, by what your’ve said, as if that request was granted.

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October 28, 2013
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Yes, apparently both her heart and bowels are buried at St James’s, while the rest of her is in Westminster Abbey. It seems a pretty bizarre thing to do if they weren’t honouring her request it be buried with KOA.

November 27, 2013
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I don’t recall Mary every asking to be buried with KOA. Mary was queen and would have expected to be buried in Westminster Abbey or other such royal burial place.
It’s odd though that her heart and bowels are at St James’s while the rest of her is in Westminster Abbey. I know that her body would have been embalmed on her death and her insides removed but I would have thought they would either be destroyed or buried with the rest of her body. I know too that it was a common practice a few hundred years before that bits of bodies were buried in various churches (in order too have more masses said for the soul) but I thought that practice had largely died out by the 1500’s?

November 27, 2013
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There is another rumour, whether t’s true or not, that Maria De Salanas asked for her body to be placed with KOA when she died.. Again it’s probably just an unsubstanciated rumour. But things like this do make a pretty story…
We all know that KOA is buried in Peterbrough Abbey, and that an autopsyy on her body revealed that her heart was black etc.. were her innards buried with her or were they buried someone within Kimbolton castle?
I think the practise of bits of someone in other places did largely die out by the 1500, but I still think it was done if the deceased person had requested that certain bits of them were to buried elsewhere in their will.

Little bit of trivia for you Queen Victoria as we all know is buried with Prince Albert, apartently in her coffin she also has a lock of John Brown’s hair too.
Locks of hair were quite common things to be placed in the coffin of a deceased person so I believe with the Victorians.. They were a funny lot.
The most touching of all the funeral stories I think is that of Caroline of Ansbach, G2 consort. When he died he requested that the side boards of their coffins were removed so that there bones could mingle together..
G2 was devoted to Caroline, and as she lay dying she said to George, “You must marry again” He said “No my beloeved I shall only ever have mistresses.” He kept that vow. His last mistress was a woman called Alice Keppel, who is a decendant of Camelia Parker Bowles.. Weird hey.

I wonder if Lard arse has got mementos of his wives buried with him or if parts of him are buried elsewhere? We know he is buried with Jane, but then so is C1.. Poor Charlie, bad enough he had his head cut off, but to be in the same place a Lard arse, must have been embarrassing for the poor sod..

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July 3, 2018
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Boleyn, in your post above, you recall the burial of George II. I have also read these same details including the quote but you say his mistress was named Alice Keppel. Alice was indeed a mistress but she was Edward VII’s mistress and yes she is the ancestor of the current Duchess of Cornwall Camilla wife of Prince Charles.

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July 4, 2018
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seymour said
Boleyn, in your post above, you recall the burial of George II. I have also read these same details including the quote but you say his mistress was named Alice Keppel. Alice was indeed a mistress but she was Edward VII’s mistress and yes she is the ancestor of the current Duchess of Cornwall Camilla wife of Prince Charles.  

Thank you.. An easy mistake to make, as our history is a complex as it bloodthirsty.

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July 9, 2018
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It certainly is complex and I know so little of it but it is fascinating!!!

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