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Henry Norreys / Norris and his family ?
April 5, 2014
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Does anyone have Henry’s ‘coat of arms’ that he used, while in office?
A seal from his letters perhaps?
It seems Ives had queries on Edward being (his) father and suggests Richard, 2nd son of William Norreys, would like to find out more.
Henry’s daughter Mary Norreys and her ? daughter Katherine Champernowne (from 2nd marriage) is being ‘batted’ about. How true is this?

There are so many mistakes out there. If anyone else is finding these errors, please help me put Henry’s family straight… Cool

Thank you.

April 5, 2014
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I’ve found this I hope it will be of use to you.
http://www.berkshirehistory.co…..rreys.html or this http://www.4crests.com/norris-…..-arms.html

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April 5, 2014
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Thank you Boleyn for your reply.
I have contacted David on a few errors I’ve found. Never acknowledge’s .. but changes are made a few months later :)

There seems to be 2 different ‘coats’ . One, as above on your links, of 3 Ravens, this is the Norreys family around Bray and in St Michael’s Bray.
The other is quartered (1st & 3rd or 2nd & 4th) depending on author!! yellow /red with ‘fretty’ , I call it basketwork in gold. This is mostly from the Lancs Norreys. CChildrey/Speke Hall.
No-one has found a definate line for ‘our’ Sir Henry died 1536. They are very scant on detail. :/

Hoping that someone here had seen a document with Henry’s arms. Shame they didn’t do letterheads back in the day.
If Baron Norreys was Henry’s son, where are the Raven’s ? He has the Yellow/red basketwork !!
and Mary Champernowne (d 1570).. Henry’s daughter.. what of hers ?

At this moment in time, it looks like the wrong Henry is in the grips of Historians.

Kind regards’

April 6, 2014
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I don’t really understand how coats of arms work out to be honest Norreys.
I did know a decendant to Katherine Champernowne however, a wonderful old lady, who had a heart of gold.
She had a picture of Kate hanging hanging in her hallway she was her Great GGGGG Grandaughter. She told me a little of her family history, she was a nurse in the first World War and was in France for most of the time. Received a medal from King George 5th for her bravery during those terrible times too.

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April 6, 2014
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How lucky to have met the lady. I’m sure she was full of wonderful stories. :)

This is a link to Norreys / Seymour / Champernowne and how the ‘arms’ are used to denote the family connections.

http://books.google.co.uk/book…..38;f=false

April 6, 2014
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Thank you Norreys.
I’ve actually just noticed (brain not working again!!) that I haven’t formlly welcomed you to our family home. So a merry welcome to you, you will soon discover that we are a very mixed bunch of scallywags, but we do enjoy a good debate and sharing a laugh or 2 along the way too.
I look forward to reading your posts.

Yes the the elderly lady was extremely intelligent, and her stories were fantastic. I can’t even conceive the horrors she experienced during those desperate times. Her first husband was killed in the Somme, only a few months after they were married, leaving her pregnant, but sadly she miscarried the child. At least her 2nd marriage faired better she was happily married for many years, to a man who became a sea lord in the Royal Navy.
She was a very wise and wonderful lady, and I miss her very much. She always made me smile with her humour. I’m not religious in any way, but in this case I will make an exception “God rest her gentle soul”

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April 6, 2014
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Thank you for you welcome, Boleyn. :)

October 26, 2014
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Have just returned from a day at The Tower. 1st The poppies were amazing, so many people there!! 2nd to find Henry Norreys…. no sight of him or his memo anywhere… from St Peter ad Vincula to ‘Scaffold Green’ and on to Tower Hill. No mention anywhere ??
Has there ever been a mention on a ‘memorial ?

Thnx

October 27, 2014
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Hi, Norreys! Welcome.
It is very sad, but I don’t believe there has ever been a memorial that mentions the names of the men who died on May 17th. There is a memorial plaque on Tower Hill for all those who died there, but no names.

http://www.theanneboleynfiles……-rochford/

October 28, 2014
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Thnx for info Sharon.

October 31, 2014
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You are welcome.

January 28, 2015
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http://discovery.nationalarchi…../r/C403118

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An act for the restitution of Henry Norries Act: 31 Hen VIII c 22 Printed in: SR III, title only
Date: 1557 July [writ lost]
Held by: The National Archives, Kew

Is this our Mr Norreys?

January 28, 2015
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I have not seen this before and apparently I can’t see it now. Not digitalized yet. By the date, it would have happened in Mary’s reign. Henry’s son, Henry, was well liked and well favored. Especially by Elizabeth. She claimed to honor him because of his father, saying, * “he (the father) died in a noble cause and in justification of her mother’s innocence.” Henry was Baron Norris of Rycote. He and his wife were in service to her from 1554 and stayed with her for the rest of her life. He became her ambassador to France. Restitution by Mary? That is so interesting.

*Elizabeth I, by Anne Somerset.

January 29, 2015
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Yes Sharon, the date is a puzzle also the date, 31 Hen VIII =1540. ?or is that an act number ref? Baron Norreys was in favour with Elizabeth, but, never found any primary evidence that Baron was our Mr Norreys son.

January 30, 2015
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Yes. 31 Hen VIII wuld be 1540or possibly 1541 at the latest..

According to wiki Henry Norris 1st Baron Norris was the elder Henry’s son.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H…..on_Norreys

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The early years of Henry’s life are obscure. His mother had died in 1531, and his father was beheaded in 1536, leaving him and his younger sister Mary orphans. The children were brought up by their childless uncle, Sir John Norreys. Henry’s patrimony was restored to him by an Act of 1539 by King Henry VIII, and in December 1542 his uncle Sir John Norreys of Yattendon, was licensed to settle his estates in reversion on Henry, who was his ward, and on Margery, the younger daughter of John Williams, 1st Baron Williams of Thame, and their heirs. The couple must therefore have been betrothed by this date.

Strangely I got a parcel from my mother a few days ago of famly related items and one of her godfathers in a Henry Norris ..I won’t ask if he was either of these two gentlemen.

It's always bunnies.

January 30, 2015
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January 30, 2015
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I don’t know Norreys, it does sound like Henry, Baron Norreys of Rycote is the son of the executed Henry Norris. He is mentioned often in history books of Elizabeth. They start out by saying she favored him because he was the son of Henry Norris who was executed with Anne. He is first mentioned when they are speaking of how Elizabeth quietly went about memorializing her mother.

March 14, 2015
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Thank you both for your replies.
Norreys in the Abbey are in the same ‘chapel’ as the De Vere’s. They were closely connected. One thing the stewards couldn’t help me with is why the Islip chapel is right next to the Norreys/De Vere’s…. I have found connections in Islip that haven’t been explained as yet.
The Rycote letters in Bodleian, those I have tried reading through, a few words are not so easy, again every now and then a little questioning arises. But then, questions, questions are the way to find the answer… :)
Who was Henry’s (ex1536) father?

March 14, 2015
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Norreys, are you asking who was the father of the executed Henry Norris? Great article here by Claire,
http://www.theanneboleynfiles……rris/3503/
Hope this is what you wanted.

March 14, 2015
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Thanks for reply Sharon.
Yes continued in Henry Norreys part 2… http://www.theanneboleynfiles……rt-2/3524/ We have both come to a point, asking same question and looking for a “primary” source for confirmation.
I shall be visiting the National Archives around mid April, please if any possible documents look possible, post link. :)

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