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November 5, 2010
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MegC
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Was is common or customary for a woman to keep her maiden name once she was married, or is this something that modern historians do to more or less help us keep track of who is who?  If all of Henry's wives took the Tudor last name, then we would have had 3 Catherine Tudors, 2 Anne Tudors, and a Jane Tudor.  It would seem very confusing.  Not to mention 2 Elizabeth Tudors (Elizabeth I and her grandmother, Elizabeth of York).

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November 5, 2010
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Hmm, I've often wondered the same thing. How did the women refer to themselves? What did others call them? 

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November 6, 2010
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I've just read through the chapter on marriage in Alison Sim's “The Tudor Housewife” and there's no mention of it in there – grrr! I think that Tudor women did take on the surnames of their husbands when they married.

One funny thing – I live in Spain where women keep their maiden names and the Spaniards think it is really weird that Tim and I have the same surname. I wonder if they think we're committing incest!!

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November 6, 2010
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My family is Italian and they kept their maiden names in Italy also.  When I was looking genealogical roots in Sicily and Italy, I had to use my female ancestors maiden names.  I'm not sure about England.  Good question though.

November 8, 2010
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I thought Shakespeare's wife was called Anne Hathaway–clearly not Anne Shakespeare.  It would really help if they had been more imaginative with their first names.

Wasn't Mary Boleyn referred to as “Lady Carey” during her first marriage?  But I tend to think of that being more like a reference to her title–sort of how people will use the title “Duke of Suffolk” almost as a first name even though “Suffolk” was neither the first or last name of the title's owner.  By calling Mary “Lady Carey”, they could merely have been acknowledging her marriage to Carey even though she still officially went by Mary Boleyn.

I don't know.  Just a thought. 

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November 8, 2010
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I found this on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M…..iden_names

If you can't get it,  type: Married and maiden names in your search engine. Then go to Wikipedia.

November 18, 2010
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Claire said:

I've just read through the chapter on marriage in Alison Sim's “The Tudor Housewife” and there's no mention of it in there – grrr! I think that Tudor women did take on the surnames of their husbands when they married.

One funny thing – I live in Spain where women keep their maiden names and the Spaniards think it is really weird that Tim and I have the same surname. I wonder if they think we're committing incest!!


It's common in French speaking countries too.

 

My Federal IDs are in my married name but my Quebec ones are in my maiden name.

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December 12, 2010
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The only exception I can think of is Lady Rochford. She's more commonly known as Jane Boleyn. When I first did some research on her I thought she was a cousin of Anne's! I knew who she was but I'd first heard her be known as Jane Parker.

Also, there's Kat Ashley (or is it 'Astley'? I've seen it spelt as both). One hardly ever hears her be mentioned as Kat Champernowne.

Interesting topic… Fascinating how in Spain and Italy one keeps their maiden name. I never knew that.

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December 12, 2010
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bethany.x said:

The only exception I can think of is Lady Rochford. She's more commonly known as Jane Boleyn. When I first did some research on her I thought she was a cousin of Anne's! I knew who she was but I'd first heard her be known as Jane Parker.

Also, there's Kat Ashley (or is it 'Astley'? I've seen it spelt as both). One hardly ever hears her be mentioned as Kat Champernowne.

Interesting topic… Fascinating how in Spain and Italy one keeps their maiden name. I never knew that.

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France and her colonies too, well Quebec anyway..

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December 12, 2010
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All I can say is thank god I got rid of my maiden name!  While I'm sure everyone on here from England can properly pronounce “Cheatham”, 90% of the time no one around here could pronounce it correctly–unless they were from the county of the same name on the other side of the state.

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December 13, 2010
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MegC said:

All I can say is thank god I got rid of my maiden name!  While I'm sure everyone on here from England can properly pronounce “Cheatham”, 90% of the time no one around here could pronounce it correctly–unless they were from the county of the same name on the other side of the state.


Same! No one can pronouce my surname, there have been many weak attempts…

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December 13, 2010
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My maiden name is almost impossible to pronounce in French but my married name, which is easier, I'm not supposed to use.

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December 13, 2010
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My maiden name is pretty simple but people have a hard time with it.  Galli, pronounced like a ship's Galley.  Most people pronounce it Gal-I or  ConfusedGall-EE or Gall-I.   My married name is easier. It's pronounced as it's spelled.

December 13, 2010
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There were cousins on my Mom's side of the family (French) with the surname Gognat. Pronounced Gunyer. My GGM remarried as an older widow (actually, she outlived 3 husbands!) another French immigrant with the surname Henniquant. His descendents changed it to a phonetic spelling – Hennico.

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