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Queen Mary I's Court
May 27, 2012
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Court was quite lively and active under the reign of King Henry VIII, but I’ve always wondered how court life would’ve changed under a solemn Queen Mary I of England. Has anyone read any books that would bring light to this topic?

May 29, 2012
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A good question..Mary’s court in my opinion would be austere and religious, but I think too perhaps there were moments of joy where banquets were held and there was merriment. In some ways I kind of think that Mary also tried to recapture the court of her youth when her mum and dad were happy.
I don’t know whether Mary herself did much dancing but I know she enjoyed music. For the most part I would imagine save for visiting or leaving Ambassadors the court would be quiet and quite dull. Don’t quote me though it’s just purely an opinion.

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May 29, 2012
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My very reliable source says that Mary I’s court was a happy and sensible court with much amusement until that first phantom pregnancy. After that it was all gloom and doom. No one opened curtains, no one swept floors and no one cracked a smile for years.In fact, weeping was the mood for the day. My source? Phillipa Gregort’s wonderful historical bioraphy on Hannah Green – The Queen’s Fool Wink

May 30, 2012
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THanks for that cite Bill….Wink

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May 30, 2012
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Yeah, thanks for that, Bill. Cry You had me for a minute!
Hi, twiggy and welcome.
I have read one non-fiction book about Mary. The First Queen of England, by Linda Porter. I’m not sure if court life is spoken of per say, but if you are looking for the story of Mary’s life, this is a good one.
I wonder if we hear more about Elizabeth and Henry’s courts because they lasted longer as monarchs than Mary and her brother Edward did. There is so much more written about Elizabeth and Henry. The different courtiers of the reign’s of Elizabeth and Henry are fascinating. The courtiers of Edward’s and Mary’s reigns seem to be a little less colorful. Although their stories are interesting, they are not as captivating. Sorry not much help.

May 31, 2012
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Oh I’ve read somewhere that Mary liked dancing actually, but I can’t remember where. I promise it’s not Ms. Gregory either Laugh
My feeling about Mary would be that she didn’t discourage any good “clean” fun though. I can’t picture the courtiers spending all day attending three masses. I’m sure music and dancing and such she would have encouraged.

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Sharon said

Yeah, thanks for that, Bill. Cry You had me for a minute!
Hi, twiggy and welcome.
I have read one non-fiction book about Mary. The First Queen of England, by Linda Porter. I’m not sure if court life is spoken of per say, but if you are looking for the story of Mary’s life, this is a good one.
I wonder if we hear more about Elizabeth and Henry’s courts because they lasted longer as monarchs than Mary and her brother Edward did. There is so much more written about Elizabeth and Henry. The different courtiers of the reign’s of Elizabeth and Henry are fascinating. The courtiers of Edward’s and Mary’s reigns seem to be a little less colorful. Although their stories are interesting, they are not as captivating. Sorry not much help.

I have Bloody Mary by Carolly Erickson. I hvaen’t read it in a while and can’t remember how much court life is dicussed.

IMO, the couriers of Edward’s and Mary’s court are less than colourful is that most of them were Henry’s to start with. You already know them and the more dashing and dramatic ones had been weeded out and replaced with less glamous and more dutiful servers.

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Anyanka said

Sharon said

Yeah, thanks for that, Bill. Cry You had me for a minute!
Hi, twiggy and welcome.
I have read one non-fiction book about Mary. The First Queen of England, by Linda Porter. I’m not sure if court life is spoken of per say, but if you are looking for the story of Mary’s life, this is a good one.
I wonder if we hear more about Elizabeth and Henry’s courts because they lasted longer as monarchs than Mary and her brother Edward did. There is so much more written about Elizabeth and Henry. The different courtiers of the reign’s of Elizabeth and Henry are fascinating. The courtiers of Edward’s and Mary’s reigns seem to be a little less colorful. Although their stories are interesting, they are not as captivating. Sorry not much help.

I have Bloody Mary by Carolly Erickson. I hvaen’t read it in a while and can’t remember how much court life is dicussed.

IMO, the couriers of Edward’s and Mary’s court are less than colourful is that most of them were Henry’s to start with. You already know them and the more dashing and dramatic ones had been weeded out and replaced with less glamous and more dutiful servers.

Yes Anyanka I think you are right. It would make perfect sence that this would be what Mary’s court would have been. She would have wanted people she knew in her youth about her as she knew that they were of 1, her religion and 2, her last link to her Mother and Father. Mary made a lot of mistakes the worse one being burning all those she believed were heretics and subverters to Rome and the Pope. Killing Jane Grey just so she could marry Philip was another. Again marriage to Philip I think was yet another way of tying herself to her mother, he was her 2nd cousin, and therefore would have known about her mother through her cousin (Philip’s dad/ KOA’s Nephew) Mary was fiercely proud of her Spanish roots, which is no bad thing one, but unfortunatly she was born in England and therefore should have put the needs and wants of England before those of her Spanish blood. I guess another reason to why she put the needs of the Spanish first was because it was her way of completely airbrushing her father’s memory. Although her relationship with him was cordial and respectful, underneath that was a deep and bitter resentment for what he had done to 1, Her mother 2, The church, and 3, To her. Therefore it was perhaps easier for her to cope with to completely oblitirate her English blood, and to try to forget that she was anything to do with Henry. Hope that makes sence.
Edward of course well his court would have naturally been full of old fuddy duddy’s as they were the ones ruling in affect. If Edward had lived longer then perhaps things would have been different, because once Edward got older and was able to voice his own opinions on how things should be done, he would have also chosen his own freinds and advisors.

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