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The Finale
March 15, 2012
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I. freaking. sobbed. I just* watched it last night and I cried for the last 20-30 mins. Seriously.

KoA and Mary- Very sad the way Katherine said that Mary should have children. Personally, I think that this is what ruined Mary in real life. She grew up with loving parents and it all got destroyed. All she wanted was a happy marriage, children, and a happy kingdom. /:

Anne- OMG. “Anne, don’t g-!” Poor Henry, he just realized what an idiot he was. And Anne, how delightfully rueful, yet strangely caring she was.

Jane- While Jane is not my favorite (obvi), this scene killed me. Her telling Henry that Edward would die young, “You’ve killed him!” :'(

So what were your opinions on these amazing scenes? (:

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March 15, 2012
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I honestly cried more at Anne’s execution scene then in the finale, Anne’s execution scene got to me real good. I was sad that the show was ending though. I loved that Anne came back and had her last say and got to explain herself properly, I liked that Henry got told off by his 1st three wives and they informed him of how the future would be.
The romantic side of me, though, wanted Anne to stay when Henry said “Anne, don’t g-” and them to embrace – but then again, Henry didn’t deserve that kind of treatment. And when Katherine said “i’m still your wife to this day” made me get chills.

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March 16, 2012
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There were many moments in The Tudors that brought me to tears. I did not think the end would. Henry was going to die, and I did not think I would have any sympathy for him at all. What a surprise I had coming.

I knew the ghost scenes were going to be there. I basically knew what Anne would say, but I cried, and darnnit I was crying for Henry when he asked her not to go. I was in tears when Katherine told him that they were still married in the eyes of God, but I expected that. The one that made me cry the most, and I never would have thought this, was Jane’s ghost. She finally got her say. By the time she walked off I was crying like a baby.

In the end I was feeling sympathy for Henry. I figure if a movie can make feel sorrow for Henry and make me cry for his loss, the writers have done their job and done it well. Crying for Henry! Me! Imagine that! He had so much promise in his youth, and he ended so badly. I loved the end of the show. I’m so glad they didn’t end it with Henry dying in his bed. Yup, I cried for quite a while after it ended.

March 16, 2012
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I don’t know why I didn’t get emotional about it, I thought I would but I didn’t. I felt Anne,Katherine, and Jane made the episode, they got to have the last say and they stuck it to Henry like he deserved. But, suprisingly, I did feel bad for Henry at the very end when they showed a montage of his life – the way things went so bad and downhill wasn’t something to expect when you have everything at your feet. And it was clear on his face that he definately regretted the way things ended up. I would too though.
Oh! wait scratch the non emotional thing! I DID get pretty emotional when they showed Henry Cavill (Charles Brandon) dieing. LOL.

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March 16, 2012
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While it was one of my favourite episodes, I did not cry while watching it. I did like how the writers handled the wives, and felt they were sympathetic to their fates, and did not show Henry in a very positive light. I finished the espisode satisfied. I was not sad to see Henry’s end. Charles Brandon, yes; Henry, no. For all the people he wronged, maligned, destroyed, and killed, he deserved whatever fate waited him in the next life.

As for the wives, I felt the writers new what the fans wanted. They handled these scenes with care and responsibility. It seemed to me KOA, Anne and Jane said to Henry what he needed to hear. In death, they could stand up to him without fear of reprisal. He had no power over them in death. He destroyed their lives, and finally they had the chance to tell him the truth. Part of me wanted an “Anne of the Thousand Days” from the Tudor’s Anne. A little bit of foreshadowing to Elizabeth’s greatness.

My favourite ghost was Jane. She was the real Jane: intelligent, outspoken, and brave. She told Henry what he needed to hear. He destroyed his own son. He failed as a father, and there was nothing he could do about it.

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March 16, 2012
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I didn’t cry, but I thought the series was wrapped up very well. I also liked how the series ended in a way that led into the Elizabeth movie starring Cate Blanchett. Very smart on the writer since he wrote both THe Tudors and the ELizabeth movie. The one thing that the finale’s end highlighted for me though was the need to do a series that fills in the gap between the end of The Tudors and the start of the Elizabeth movie. Maybe just one more season where half is dedicared to Edward’s reign and the other half deidacted to Mary’s reign. I dunno, it just really pointed out to me when it comes to the Tudors entertainment really does like to pretend Elizabeth followed Henry.

March 16, 2012
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Mya Elise said

I don’t know why I didn’t get emotional about it, I thought I would but I didn’t. I felt Anne,Katherine, and Jane made the episode, they got to have the last say and they stuck it to Henry like he deserved. But, suprisingly, I did feel bad for Henry at the very end when they showed a montage of his life – the way things went so bad and downhill wasn’t something to expect when you have everything at your feet. And it was clear on his face that he definately regretted the way things ended up. I would too though.
Oh! wait scratch the non emotional thing! I DID get pretty emotional when they showed Henry Cavill (Charles Brandon) dieing. LOL.

Oh yess. The montage. I think I cried the hardest then. I can’t even think about it . lol.

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March 17, 2012
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The last episode of The Tudors, was actually cleverly done. Henry had to face up to what he’d done to the first 3 woman in his life, I think it would have been nice if K.H had sort of been in the back ground when Anne was confronting him.
I liked the way they had Elizabeth strut off after he’s said his farewells. As for feeling sorry for any of the charaters I rather feel sorry for Charles’s misstress, as what did she have when he died? Nothing, and yet she had made him so happy.
I did feel a little sorry for Henry but I also felt that he got exactly what he deserved he’s ripped the country apart and had basically ended up a bitter old man, who no one really liked, and were perhaps glad when he died, as they could breathe a little easier.
I believe the producers got the Seymours down to a T as they came across as exactly how I would imagine them in real life, ambitious and always trying to outdo one another, which in the end destroyed them both. I’m not to sure about K.P she played a good part, but I don’t know she just didn’t seem to do it for me, it lacked something but I don’t know exactly what.. I think Mary was perhaps a little too sweet, as I really don’t think in real life Mary actually trusted her father, sure she loved him as Elizabeth did, but from what I’ve read, he just made them feel that they perhaps surplus to requirements, I hope that makes sence.
I must admit though that I did enjoy the Tudors soap opera very much. I only hope that the Showtime producers seriously think about giving it a shot at continuing the family line, as I think I’ve said before I would love to see how they portray Mary’s promise to Chapuys about bringing England back into the Cathlic faith and also Elizabeth’s problems with the Seymours, Robert Dudley, Mary QOS and the Armada.

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March 17, 2012
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The charater who really got my sympathy vote was Francis Derham. He went through the full horror all for the love of a young girl, who he still loved but she no longer loved him.

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March 19, 2012
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I’d love to see them create another show. I’d want them to follow the stories/reign’s of Henry’s 3 children, Edward,Mary&Elizabeth. I wouldn’t even mind if they sexed it out like they did in ‘The Tudors’, as long as it stays true to reality and is as enjoyable as ‘The Tudors’. I can see it now: Edward blooming into a ‘Deja Vu’ of his father but the fun stops short when he tragicly dies, The short reign of Jane Grey, The difficult reign of Mary I, and finally Elizabeth’s reign.

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March 19, 2012
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I’m with you Mya. I was hoping for a series continuation of Henry’s heirs. Although The Tudors wrote Lady Jane grey right out (I won’t go there), but I wanted to see their stories. There are some good productions on Elizabeth’s reign, but none (correct me if I’m wrong) about Edward and Mary. There are just as important and interesting as Elizabeth. I love the movie, Lady Jane, but it’s time for something new.

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March 20, 2012
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DuchessofBrittany said

I’m with you Mya. I was hoping for a series continuation of Henry’s heirs. Although The Tudors wrote Lady Jane grey right out (I won’t go there), but I wanted to see their stories. There are some good productions on Elizabeth’s reign, but none (correct me if I’m wrong) about Edward and Mary. There are just as important and interesting as Elizabeth. I love the movie, Lady Jane, but it’s time for something new.

I actually made a point of putting this question to the Showtime people and they said that the producers of the The Tudors felt that they couldn’t go any further with the series. However I took this to be that there may be a chnace of them re thinking this option sometime in the future. I do know that there has been a lot of out cry frrom the forum feedback on The Tudors on the Showtime web site that is calling for the continuing saga of The Tudors, so who knows what may happen? I think it will be a case of wait and see..

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March 20, 2012
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Duchess, The film The Lady Jane made me cry buckets. I wonder if it was like that in real life for Jane Grey and Guildford Dudley.?

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March 20, 2012
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Boleyn said

Duchess, The film The Lady Jane made me cry buckets. I wonder if it was like that in real life for Jane Grey and Guildford Dudley.?

“Lady Jane” is one of my favourite films. While it is historically innacuarate, I cannot get enough of it. I cry everytime, even though I know Jane must die in the end.

Sadly, Jane and Guilford’s relationship was far more contentious. There was no love between them. The real life Guilford was less considerate, intelligent, or patient. I would call him a “momma’s boy” (in the worst way). he wanted to be King, and Jane would have none of it.

However, I felt Helena Bonham-Carter did a wondeful job as Jane.

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March 20, 2012
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Was Lady Jane in the Tudors at all? I love the film with Helena Bonham Carter too, I just ordered a DVD with her playing Anne Boleyn. I can’t wait to see it.
I didn’t cry in the last episode of the Tudors either. But the Anne Boleyn execution killed me. I wail every time I see it. Honestly though I think Showtime did a much better job on the Borgias than they did on the Tudors. I’d rather they left it where it is, I shudder to think how they’d portray Elizabeth.

March 20, 2012
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I looooved Lady Jane, I wish their relationship was like that in reality but it wasn’t – Wasn’t he a immature momma’s boy? I starting blubbering like a baby when she couldn’t find the block and everyone just stood there for a few minutes.
I really wish they would make a new series, do you know how popular that would be especially with us crazy Anne fans?! Hopefully they consider it even just a little bit.

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March 21, 2012
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Olga said

Was Lady Jane in the Tudors at all? I love the film with Helena Bonham Carter too, I just ordered a DVD with her playing Anne Boleyn. I can’t wait to see it.
I didn’t cry in the last episode of the Tudors either. But the Anne Boleyn execution killed me. I wail every time I see it. Honestly though I think Showtime did a much better job on the Borgias than they did on the Tudors. I’d rather they left it where it is, I shudder to think how they’d portray Elizabeth.

Olga,
I believe in the Tudors series, Lady Jane Grey would never have been born. The show never featured her mother, Frances Brandon.

I liked Bonham-Carter as Anne The series, Henry VIII is not to everyone’s tastes, but I found it entertaining. Ray Winstone is an interesting (and less refined) Henry.

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DuchessofBrittany said

Olga said

Was Lady Jane in the Tudors at all? I love the film with Helena Bonham Carter too, I just ordered a DVD with her playing Anne Boleyn. I can’t wait to see it.
I didn’t cry in the last episode of the Tudors either. But the Anne Boleyn execution killed me. I wail every time I see it. Honestly though I think Showtime did a much better job on the Borgias than they did on the Tudors. I’d rather they left it where it is, I shudder to think how they’d portray Elizabeth.

Olga,
I believe in the Tudors series, Lady Jane Grey would never have been born. The show never featured her mother, Frances Brandon.

I liked Bonham-Carter as Anne The series, Henry VIII is not to everyone’s tastes, but I found it entertaining. Ray Winstone is an interesting (and less refined) Henry.

In the Tudors series, there was no mention of any children that Charles had with Margaret (Mary) so the answer is no Olga, by the welcome abroad. The Borgias was good, but I found it hard to get into at first.
I’m not so concerned about how they would portray Elizabeth it’s Mary I would shudder for, after all Mary didn’t get the nickname Bloody Mary by handing out tea and biscuits to the populus did she? Plus I’d like to see how Philip would be portrayed too, as for some reason anything I’ve ever read about him he seems to come across an a brute and I should imagine in real life he was very vengeful against Mary in 1. Not ordering her council into naming him King. (which for once I applaud Mary in not doing) and 2. blaming her in very vocal terms that she was useless and incapable in bearing him a child etc. I actually have him down as actually hitting her too.
With Elizabeth well I think they would sex her up a bit, but for the most part I think they would stick to the person she was, possible with a nasty streak comming out when dealing with Mary QOS. I also think it would like to see how they portray Elizabeth and her sister’s relationship when Mary became Queen, they were by all accounts surla burla (this way and that) in real life, but would the Showtime people actually have them actually having cat fights, hair pulling, scratching, and chucking things at each other etc, now that would be something. Ha Ha I just had a picture come into my head, of Philip running in with a whistle and flag and breaking up one of their fights.
As for the person playing Mary QOS I don’t know why but I think Joanna Whalley would be good, and to my mind there is only one woman who can play Elizabeth convincingly and that’s Glenda Jackson, but she’s a bit old now, so Cate Blanchett or Anne Marie Duff. As for Mary Helena Bonham Carter perhaps, and Mandy Panatin (the bloke who was in the Princess Bride) to play Philip.

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March 21, 2012
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Duchess I’m really looking forward to seeing it. i saw bits and pieces on Youtube and they both really looked how I wanted them to look, and that’s always a big thing for me. And I adore Helena. So does my partner actually, I swear he has a soft spot for Lady Jane because Helena played her (he gave himself away being upset when Molly killed Bellatrix in Harry Potter 7 lol)

Hi Boleyn Smile I imagine Lizzy would be a raving tart and sleeping with every second man she saw. I shouldn’t be too hard on Showtime, HBO is much worse. They did that little scene with Mary in the Tudors flaring her nostrils and vowing to burn people which annoyedme quite a bit. Then there were some other parts I liked with Mary, her love interest in one of the early seasons. I know it was absolute fiction but I enjoyed what it portrayed.

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Ha Ha I just had a picture come into my head, of Philip running in with a whistle and flag and breaking up one of their fights.

So apt! Phillip would be interesting to see, and Edward. But who knows? they have stuffed up a lot of things which would make the transition, as you and Duchess have pointed out, no Lady Jane. Did Thomas Seymour have a baby with his sister-in-law as well? I’ve seen the whole series twice and I still can’t remember half of the shenanigans.

March 21, 2012
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I think the problem the producers of The Tudors would have in continuing the series is the lack of sex, that they love to use to sell a story. How boring is a child king, Mary would be required to be a virgin which I’m sure they would say caused her ‘burning regime’ that just too many episodes without sex before they get to the tarty Liz.

But just typing that up I just realised how the sex could be added. The Seymour Brothers can be sleeping with Catherine Parr, Thomas Seymour can sleep with Liz, maybe Catherine can sleep with Liz as well, Dudley can sleep with Frances Brandon, Edward can sleep with Jane, Jane can be a nympho with Guilford, once Mary marries Phillip she turns into a nympho and is too busy catching up on lost time to worry about running the country, Phillip can sleep with Liz, Liz can sleep with Robert Dudley and then the series will end with a slight overlap with the Elizabeth series starring Cate Blanchett. LOL.

It’s not like the producers really cared about historical facts in the original series LOL

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