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Katherine Howards Execution *spoilers*
May 27, 2010
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It's gorgeous isn't it! I got goosebumps when I saw those pictures of ghost Anne with Elizabeth, can't wait to see that episode and hear what she has to say to Henry! *pinches self to remind that it is just a show*

I feel the same about Natalie, she is Anne in my head. Although Geneviève Bujold is a close second 🙂

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May 27, 2010
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Melissa, what an interesting point.  I've never thought about that, but I think you're quite possibly right. 

The dance scene was my favorite too.  Despite its historical inaccuracies I love the show, and I liked the way they did Katherine's execution.  And as far as Michael Hirst thinking the bit about Culpeper at her execution was characteristic, he really has a point. 

May 28, 2010
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I watched the execution episode last night and here are my thoughts:-

  • JRM keeps talking in an Irish accent – Me and my husband keep finishing his sentences by saying “to be sure” and “top of the mornin' to ya”
  • Speed – Everything happened so fast! Dereham and Culpeper were, in reality, executed months before Catherine and the whole thing blew up in the November and Catherine wasn't executed until the February. I understand that they had to speed it up as what else would they have done in the meantime but then Anne Stanhope managed to get pregnant and give birth in the same episode! Wish pregnancies were that short!
  • Dereham and Culpeper – Again, rather rushed but I thought the torture and executions were done well, well I think so but then I did only watch it between my fingers! Their heads were actually put on London Bridge but I can see why they had Catherine going past them, poor terrified girl.
  • The Howards – I think it's a shame that they didn't have the Howard clan being rounded up and imprisoned too. They were pardoned and released but I think it would have been good to show how they were affected by Catherine's downfall.
  • The dancing – Yes, I thought that was poignant and was a great contrast to the brutality of the executions.
  • Catherine in the Tower – Cringe, cringe, cringe! Totally agree with Impish, it was just an excuse to get Tamzin Merchant naked again and robbed the scene of everything it could have been. As others have said, I think Catherine wanted to die with dignity and get this one act of her life right, she didn't want to mess up, and there is no way on earth that she would have stripped off in a stone building in the middle of February! First I laughed and then I got angry, what stupid treatment of a poor girl who was a victim of a monster.
  • Catherine's execution – Yes, Catherine went first and not Lady Rochford. Both women gave the usual expected speeches and I hate how the show used those mythical words. I know that Hirst thinks that Catherine was nothing more than a whore but I feel sad that she has been treated in this way. 
  • Cranmer – It is still annoying me that Cranmer is AWOL when he is the one that interrogated Catherine and was in charge of the investigations. The missing Duke of Norfolk is also annoying.

I agree with Bambaleyn that the little touches in the show have made you fall in love a little with Catherine and realise that she was a young naive girl, not innocent but very naive, but then they have to ruin it all with the naked scene – grrr! I also agree with Impish about how Hirst and his crew are capable of such greatness – some of the speeches are word for word what those people said, they use little historical details from the primary sources that not many people know about, yet then they commit huge sins by throwing in complete fiction and rubbish. Oh well, I'm still addicted! Wink

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May 31, 2010
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Claire said:

 Both women gave the usual expected speeches and I hate how the show used those mythical words. I know that Hirst thinks that Catherine was nothing more than a whore but I feel sad that she has been treated in this way. 

The good thing is that she didn't actually appear like “a whore” in the series (even with the eternal sex scenes Confused that haven't spared a lot of characters of this series anyway) and this sentence makes her die as a lover and not the “whore” she's said to be. And whether she said it or not it doesn't actually take away from her, she appears courageous and bold. Especially nowadays, with a modern mind, people don't always understand why the condemned praise the king who makes them die.

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