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How good is the portrayal of Henry VIII?
May 28, 2012
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It’ll be a good day If I here news about a new Tudor like show about Elizabeth. I’d love to see the twists they’d do.

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May 28, 2012
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I’d love a series about Elizabeth…..but I’m kind of afraid what they’d do to it.Wink

May 29, 2012
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Yeah definetly I would love to see how the boffins would portray not just Elizabeth but Mary and Edward too.. I would also like to see the rivally that Mary and Elizabeth would have. I bet they would dress it up so that Mary and Liz would have a few cat fights and beating each other up with whatever came to hand…

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May 30, 2012
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Boleyn said

Yeah definetly I would love to see how the boffins would portray not just Elizabeth but Mary and Edward too.. I would also like to see the rivally that Mary and Elizabeth would have. I bet they would dress it up so that Mary and Liz would have a few cat fights and beating each other up with whatever came to hand…

How about Macauley Culkin as Edward (bless), Madonna as Elizabeth and Lady Gaga as Mary. That should work, and if it doesn’t it can’t be any worse than the casting in the first four series!
Admittedly Charles Brandon was gorgious, but in reality he looked as if he was about to climb Everest.

May 30, 2012
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Louise said

Boleyn said

Yeah definetly I would love to see how the boffins would portray not just Elizabeth but Mary and Edward too.. I would also like to see the rivally that Mary and Elizabeth would have. I bet they would dress it up so that Mary and Liz would have a few cat fights and beating each other up with whatever came to hand…

How about Macauley Culkin as Edward (bless), Madonna as Elizabeth and Lady Gaga as Mary. That should work, and if it doesn’t it can’t be any worse than the casting in the first four series!
Admittedly Charles Brandon was gorgious, but in reality he looked as if he was about to climb Everest.

Louise I got to laugh I’ve got mental image in my head now as Macauley Culkin playing Edward as he did Kevin in the Home Alone films But as it goes I think he would actually do ok as Edward..
Charles Brandon definetly looked like he could freeze a chicken at 10 paces with his appearence in real life and yet he obvisiouly had that certain something that Mary Tudor fell in love with. I’m not too sure about Madonna or Lady Gaga though?

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May 30, 2012
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Charles Brandon/Henry Cavill had something that made many of us fall in love with him. Kiss

May 31, 2012
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Sharon said

Charles Brandon/Henry Cavill had something that made many of us fall in love with him. Kiss

Oh man I have theee biggest crush on Mr.Cavill.
If I ever see that man….oh God…. Wink

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June 1, 2012
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Mya Elise said

Sharon said

Charles Brandon/Henry Cavill had something that made many of us fall in love with him. Kiss

Oh man I have theee biggest crush on Mr.Cavill.
If I ever see that man….oh God…. Wink

To quote from Mrs Doubtfire.. Henry Cavill is a real stud muffin.. I must admit he was rather gorgeous, Although I must confess I’d never heard of him before The Tudors.

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June 2, 2012
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I had heard of his name before the Tudors but I never knew what he looked like until I watched the show.

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July 24, 2012
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JRM as Henry somehow seemed to work. To be honest given that Henry was as changable as the weather where his mood was concerned in real life.. JRM seemed to be able to switch moods without actually appearing to do it.. (if that makes sence) The bit where COA and Henry are talking about their marriage and she says very calmly “you know I was a virgin so why do this to me now?” and he just swings round and says ” So you you were a f***ing virgin but that’s not the point” and in the next moment he’s calm and collected, Brilliant. There was a sort of chemistry between JRM and N.D which made all the difference when it came down to playing Henry and Anne. Again you can see the love between them but also the anger and frustration too. The same could be said of Richard Burton and Genevieve Bujold and also of Ray Winstone and Helena Bonham Carter.

I’ve said this a few times in my posting if Steven Hawking invented a time machine I would lke to travel back and see first hand the tempestious and volatile love affair Henry and Anne had first hand.
Now threre’s a thought it would be funny if we could all do that and then just as we are getting to the juicy bits in their relationship one of our mobiles rings(My ringtone would certainly be instant death as it’s mash up of the Crazy Frog with a little bit of Trance chucked in) and we start to hold a conversation with what appears to them as thin air.. I think there would be a shout of “off with their heads” (although he never said that in real life) or ” A Witch burn them” and Cromwell saying ” Come with me and how would you like your stake?”

On the whole I think the portrayal of Henry in The Tudors was rather good the producers seem to capture is manic and sadistic behaviour quite well. But the truth is we will never ever really know the real Henry or the rest of the Tudor crew 100%.

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August 2, 2012
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If people are getting annoyed about appearances than katherine was actually meant to be slightly plump, which was more of the fashion in those days, in the tudors she is very skinny. i do a free that the script made kh quite one-dimensional though i do like tamzin merchant and i think she played her as the slightly idiotic fun loving part she was given. Also on the subject of ages, cromwell is meant to be about 5 or 6 years older than henry.

August 2, 2012
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I don’t think being plump was the fashion as such it was the excepted norm more than anything. COA was pregnant many times and with each pregnancy she got slightly more well rounded. Plus you must remember that COA was 6 years older than Henry so outgrew all the things that she would have done in the earlier years of her marriage, such as Hunting, and Dancing etc. Which was perhaps part of the reason why Henry turned against her.
What you must remember about the Tudors is that it was a kind of soap opera, not to be taken to heart on how the charaters are portrayed compared with what we know about the real Tudors. Anne was referred to by someone(I think it may have been the Spanish Ambassador) just before her disgrace and downfall as a sour faced woman in real life. Again that may or may not of been true. AOC was referred to as a Flanders Mare.. In fact Henry never called her that at all, someone else might have said it about AOC and it was then heaped it onto Henry, as he was distressed at being married to someone he couldn’t stand.
To be hoest Tasmin Merchant’s portrayal of K.H made me want to spit feathers, she just seem to portray her as some pathetic nymphomaniac, and I seriously wanted to jump through the screen and put her over my knee and spank….. HARD….The real K.H was very different in my opinion, we have discussed this in an earlier forum, but to my mind K.H reminds me of a lemming, forever going onward rushing headlong into trouble, never thinking of the consequences of where her actions would lead her and paid the ultimate price, with her life.

Charles Brandon in real life was about 8 or 9 years older than Henry as well.

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August 3, 2012
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I think the way KH was portrayed was just so wrong. They had her seducing Henry from the moment she meets him. I mean really! There is no way on earth that Henry would have believed she was so sweet and innocent by the way the script had her acting. It was all just so wrong. As well, I kept turning the sound down all through the KH episodes because her constant giggling (and that of her ladies) was grating on my nerves. Perhaps they were trying to save a little on the budget by keeping her naked so much of the time? Wink
I loved how AOC was portrayed though. She was smart and pragmatic and ended up having a comfortable life.

August 3, 2012
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Janet.. Totally agree. AOC portrayal is perhaps as close to the real AOC as we are going to get.. There was also some comical about her too.
I love the bit where she says to Cromwell I think that Henry stinks.. She was right too Henry did stink and not just because of his ulcerated leg..
There is also the bit where one of her ladies points out that in order for her to have a baby he must put his member into you and stir it.. The look on her face and what she said afterwards is brilliant.. All the actresses who played his wives were brilliant in there own way and certainly put another slant on what we already know of Henry’s wives. The only 2 actresses I wasn’t to over impressed with was the first Jane, who acting style seem very wooden and stiff, even in the way she was walking seem to suggest to me that she was trying not to fart. Even when she spoke it seems as if she was reading her lines at the same time in a very monotonic sort of way, and Tamin Merchant’s portrayal of K.H, lots of Actors and actresses tend to study their charaters from the eyes of those who have played them before and I think Tasmin should have watch both Angela Pleasence and Lynne Frederick’s portayals a little more. I also agree her annoying giggling got on my nerves somewhat too.

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Further to what i sais above. I think the producers were trying to show just how tyranical, sadistic and vindictive Henry had become. If that was the point they were trying to prove by allowing Tasmin to play K.H in this way, they succeeded. But if they wanted to portray realism about K.H they failed and misably too.
This will sound strange and I expect to get a few slaps on the wrist for it.. But I actually found Tasmin portrayal of K.H insulting to the real K.H’s memory.

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