Avatar
Please consider registering
guest
sp_LogInOut Log Insp_Registration Register
Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search
Forum Scope


Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
sp_Feed Topic RSSsp_TopicIcon
Tudor portrait re-identified after experts notice Henry's wife wearing wrong clothes
January 24, 2013
9:59 pm
Avatar
Anyanka
La Belle Province
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 2333
Member Since:
November 18, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02460/portraits_2460559b.jpgImage Enlarger

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cul…..othes.html

The picture, painted by an unknown artist in the 1520s, shows a woman in red and gold dress, and pearl necklace.

It had been left on display at Lambeth Palace, where scholars assumed it was Henry VIII’s sixth wife Catherine Parr.

Now, following a research visits by experts from the National Portrait Gallery, she has now been correctly identified as Catherine of Aragon, the monarch’s first Spanish wife he discarded in favour of Anne Boleyn.

It's always bunnies.

January 25, 2013
6:23 am
Avatar
Boleyn
Kent.
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 2285
Member Since:
January 3, 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Thank you for that Anyanka. Strangely enough I always thought this portrait was of Elizabeth of York. Bluff Hal’s Mum.
But looking at it now you can see a steely eyed determination that we all came to realise that COA had. Mary has that look too

Semper Fidelis, quod sum quod

January 25, 2013
10:59 am
Avatar
KellyMarie
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 93
Member Since:
January 18, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

The title makes me laugh. Experts noticed that the clothes were wrong haha. If it is Catherine of Aragon, she looks a lot prettier in this picture. Youcan see what Henry saw in her during their early years

Woohoo I'm normal...gotta go tell the cat!

January 25, 2013
6:01 pm
Avatar
Boleyn
Kent.
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 2285
Member Since:
January 3, 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

KellyMarie said

The title makes me laugh. Experts noticed that the clothes were wrong haha. If it is Catherine of Aragon, she looks a lot prettier in this picture. Youcan see what Henry saw in her during their early years

COA was quite pretty in her youth, it was the stress of 7 years of uncertainity of marriage to Henry, her many pregnancies and the stress and strain of not fulfilling her duty of giving England an heir, that ruined her looks and her body. Mary was the same, although in her case it was just stress and living in a complete state of sheer terror, that ruined her looks.

Semper Fidelis, quod sum quod

January 25, 2013
6:03 pm
Avatar
Sharon
Binghamton, NY
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 2114
Member Since:
February 24, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I laughed at that too, Kelly. I’m terrible when it comes to determining who the people are in the portraits from this era. But this one seems obvious to me: It is not Katherine Parr. It looks like Katherine of Aragon, but it also looks a bit like Elizabeth of York. (except the clothes are wrong Wink)

January 26, 2013
9:44 pm
Avatar
KellyMarie
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 93
Member Since:
January 18, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I’m terrible at telling who is who in portraits too but even I can tell that it looks nothing like Katherine Parr, unless i’ve not seen portraits that are a likeness to this one that made the professionals believe it was her once upon a time.

Woohoo I'm normal...gotta go tell the cat!

January 27, 2013
2:40 am
Avatar
Anyanka
La Belle Province
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 2333
Member Since:
November 18, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

KellyMarie said

I’m terrible at telling who is who in portraits too but even I can tell that it looks nothing like Katherine Parr, unless i’ve not seen portraits that are a likeness to this one that made the professionals believe it was her once upon a time.

lauyghs..I was re-organiseing some photos from a few years ago and found it hard to tell apart my 2 daughters when they were in seperate photos. If they were together, then it’s easier..

It's always bunnies.

January 27, 2013
12:05 pm
Avatar
Boleyn
Kent.
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 2285
Member Since:
January 3, 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Much the same here Anyanka, where pictures are concerned if you put a picture of me and my daughter together when I was younger you would swear they are the same person. What’s even stranger is if you get a picture of my son and my nephew together, they look like twins. That’s really wierd with a capital WE.

Semper Fidelis, quod sum quod

January 27, 2013
3:56 pm
Avatar
KellyMarie
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 93
Member Since:
January 18, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I know the feeling, its the same when looking at pictures of two of my brothers. It just goes to show how easy mitakes are made. We all know our family members so well and have trouble telling them apart in old pictures. I wonder how professionals manage to tell apart people they never knew who lived hundreds of years ago

Woohoo I'm normal...gotta go tell the cat!

January 28, 2013
1:24 pm
Avatar
MizLiot
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 10
Member Since:
January 4, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

To be perfectly honest, this whole new ‘discovery’ made me laugh. In May last year, I actually wrote an article arguing that it was actually Katherine of Aragon and not Catherine Parr: http://mizliot.hubpages.com/hu…..ngidentity

Gotta love these discoveries!

Time is a big ball of wibbly wobbly, timey-wimey...stuff.

January 28, 2013
5:39 pm
Avatar
Claire-Louise
UK
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 256
Member Since:
March 26, 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

MizLiot said

To be perfectly honest, this whole new ‘discovery’ made me laugh. In May last year, I actually wrote an article arguing that it was actually Katherine of Aragon and not Catherine Parr: http://mizliot.hubpages.com/hu…..ngidentity

Gotta love these discoveries!

MizLiot, that must be quite frustrating for you! Must be thinking ‘I Told You So’

January 30, 2013
12:52 pm
Avatar
MizLiot
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 10
Member Since:
January 4, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Claire-Louise said
MizLiot, that must be quite frustrating for you! Must be thinking ‘I Told You So’

It is VERY frustrating! I feel that maybe the experts who ‘discovered’ this thing might not be the sharpest tools in the box. The very first time I saw that portrait I thought it was KofA, and not CP….

Time is a big ball of wibbly wobbly, timey-wimey...stuff.

January 30, 2013
5:05 pm
Avatar
Sharon
Binghamton, NY
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 2114
Member Since:
February 24, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Hi MizLiot, Who knows maybe they saw your post and decided to investigate. Smile

Forum Timezone: Europe/London
Most Users Ever Online: 214
Currently Online:
Guest(s) 1
Top Posters:
Anyanka: 2333
Boleyn: 2285
Sharon: 2114
Bella44: 933
DuchessofBrittany: 846
Mya Elise: 781
Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 1
Members: 425972
Moderators: 0
Admins: 1
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 13
Topics: 1679
Posts: 22775
Newest Members:
DennisFub, Robertrot, coryry11, anthonyzl3, MarioCoino, JustinMUH
Administrators: Claire: 958