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Troubling coincidence?
May 12, 2010
3:10 pm
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Lexy
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I've recently seen a picture where the two “founding” kings and queens of the Tudor dynasty are shown, and something bothers me since: Jane Seymour looked a lot like Elizabeth of York. Both of them were blond and fair, of course, but there's a similarity in the shape of their faces. Add to this the fact that both of them stayed in the shadow of their husband, and simply wanted to be good wives, genrous queens and mother of many children. Didn't this similarities played a part in the seducing of Henry and in the fact that Jane was his”favourite” wife? It's a fact that he worshipped the memory of his mother: so he flt in love with his beloved mother's reflection.

but if I'm right, I find this quite disgusting: Henry marrying a woma exactly like his mother, and Jane chosing gable hood in order to be like Queen Elizabeth? It would be incestuous!

May 12, 2010
7:04 pm
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You know, you're right about them being alike.  Henry certainly loved his mother, and of course many men end up falling in love with women like their mothers.  But as the gable hood was just a classic conservative style at the time, I don't think it was anything disturbing.

May 13, 2010
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It's not wearing the gable hood that I found disturbing, but the idea that, since it accentuated Jane's similarity with queen Elizabeth, it played a role in the seducing of Henry, and it is quite disturbing to think that he slept with someone so much like his mother. But you're right, Hannah, many men are consciently or not looking for their mother when they fell in love. it certainly worked for henry, who was in some ways a spiled child, the kind who screms and kicks until he have want he want.

May 13, 2010
10:43 am
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Lexy, if true, this would be one more reason for us to believe Henry had some serious mental issues. (As if we need another reason)

Freud would love this…haha

May 17, 2010
8:21 am
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Elizabeth of York was a true beauty, whereas everyone commented on how “plain” Jane Seymour was, so I think they bore only a vague resemblance to one another. If you look at their portraits, they are certainly nothing a like. As for the whole Oedipus Complex theory, I personally wouldn't apply it to Henry.

Be daly prove you shalle me fynde,nTo be to you bothe lovyng and kynde,

May 18, 2010
4:02 am
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I was not saying that Jane was Elizabeth of York'physical reflection, but that they shared some physical aspects, such as the oval face and the blond hair. It's not unusual for plainpeople to look like beautiful people, but not sharing their beauty. Since Henry considered his mother as the absolute model of a queen, he certainly appreciated the fact that, adding to Jane's modesty, non intervention in the state's matter and gentleness( the same as Elizabeth's), she had even a vague resemblance with her, it maybe played a part in his later saying that she was his true love, along with the birth of Edward of course.

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