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Intresting painting of Jane
June 29, 2011
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I found this portrait today, it seems a lot more 'natural' that the other painting's of Jane.

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I was just wondering what everyone else thought of it? I don't know any information about the painting.

 

Jane is appears to be wearing cloth of gold, which means it was painted while she was queen maybe? Her dress seems a little low cut for the virginal, pious Jane…

"It is however but Justice, & my Duty to declre that this amiable Woman was entirely innocent of the Crimes with which she was accused, of which her Beauty, her Elegance, & her Sprightliness were sufficient proofs..." Jane Austen.

June 30, 2011
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I've seen this painting too.. I think it may have been painted after her death? Henry worshiped her for giving him the boy- Found it! The book The Lady in The Tower by Alison Weir has the image in it. The picture acknowledgements read: “Jane Seymour, Artist unknown, 1540's The Society of Antquaries of London/ The Bridgeman Art Library).

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June 30, 2011
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I've seen this painting too.. I think it may have been painted after her death? Henry worshiped her for giving him the boy- Found it! The book The Lady in The Tower by Alison Weir has the image in it. The picture acknowledgements read: “Jane Seymour, Artist unknown, 1540's The Society of Antquaries of London/ The Bridgeman Art Library).


Under the picture I found it says:

Originally believed to be a posthumous of Jane Seymour, this
portrait was recently dated to 1536-37, during Jane's brief reign as
Queen”

"It is however but Justice, & my Duty to declre that this amiable Woman was entirely innocent of the Crimes with which she was accused, of which her Beauty, her Elegance, & her Sprightliness were sufficient proofs..." Jane Austen.

June 30, 2011
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Under the pic in my copy it says: “Jane Seymour, The new amours of the King go on, to the intense rage of the Concubine”!! Do you have the same book? I wish mine gave me some more info!

She's really quite unattractive isn't she?

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June 30, 2011
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Appologies, My source was a website, but I looked on the Society Of Antiquaries website and they list 1540's.

I agree! She definatly wasnt much of a looker – her eyes were very cold!

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July 1, 2011
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Imagine having that thing wait on you- having it around you every day! Shiver..

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July 1, 2011
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Not the most attractive portrait of Jane, that's for sure.  I've always felt that it looked a little unfinished too.

July 1, 2011
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This is a dreadful portrait of Jane, but it undoubtedly must be because it has her tale-tell overbite (not that other women clearly couldn't have an overbite).  And she's wearing that god-awful gabled hood that makes her look bald!!  She looks so matronly and OLD!

If I were her, I'd be pissed with this portrait because it's hideous and I just don't believe that Jane could have honestly been that unattractive.  Henry was not known for surrounding himself with unattractive people–he even divorced Anne of Cleves because he thought she was unattractive!!  He certainly found it in him to get Jane pregnant somehow which he certainly would not have done if he thought she was truly THAT ugly.

I have always preferred this portrait of Jane which I think is a Holbein sketch. 

 

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This is a dreadful portrait of Jane, but it undoubtedly must be because it has her tale-tell overbite (not that other women clearly couldn't have an overbite).  And she's wearing that god-awful gabled hood that makes her look bald!!  She looks so matronly and OLD!

If I were her, I'd be pissed with this portrait because it's hideous and I just don't believe that Jane could have honestly been that unattractive.  Henry was not known for surrounding himself with unattractive people–he even divorced Anne of Cleves because he thought she was unattractive!!  He certainly found it in him to get Jane pregnant somehow which he certainly would not have done if he thought she was truly THAT ugly.

I have always preferred this portrait of Jane which I think is a Holbein sketch. 

 

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July 1, 2011
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From the pics of Jane I've seen, she was pretty unattractive! I think Henry liked her obedience and manners- she made him feel attractive with her simpering. Anne of Cleve's didn't do that for Henry as she lacked the guile- and spoke little English. Therefore she was disgusting to him.

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July 2, 2011
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MegC said:

This is a dreadful portrait of Jane, but it undoubtedly must be because it has her tale-tell overbite (not that other women clearly couldn't have an overbite).  And she's wearing that god-awful gabled hood that makes her look bald!!  She looks so matronly and OLD!

If I were her, I'd be pissed with this portrait because it's hideous and I just don't believe that Jane could have honestly been that unattractive.  Henry was not known for surrounding himself with unattractive people–he even divorced Anne of Cleves because he thought she was unattractive!!  He certainly found it in him to get Jane pregnant somehow which he certainly would not have done if he thought she was truly THAT ugly.

I have always preferred this portrait of Jane which I think is a Holbein sketch. 

 

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Thats a much nicer picture of Jane. Though the Gable is one of the worst hoods for making the wearing unattractive.

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July 2, 2011
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Not a flattering pic by any means but people's appearances have changed over years so maybe in those times she was considered attractive, who knows, lol!

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July 3, 2011
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@ Anyanka:  I guess the gable wasn't so bad if everyone else around looked equally awful.

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July 3, 2011
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Sophie1536 said:

Not a flattering pic by any means but people's appearances have changed over years so maybe in those times she was considered attractive, who knows, lol!


InSophie1536 said:

Not a flattering pic by any means but people's appearances have changed over years so maybe in those times she was considered attractive, who knows, lol!


Indeed! Imagine all the women of the world with no make up! Haha!

 

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July 3, 2011
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Why do you find that funny? or disturbing?

 

Lots of women don't wear make-up for various reasons.

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July 3, 2011
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Anyanka said:

Why do you find that funny? or disturbing?

 

Lots of women don't wear make-up for various reasons.


 

Here!  Here!  I so rarely wear make-up these days that when I put on eye-liner the other day for a job interview, it took me 10 minutes and a do-over to get it right (and my 3-year-old running into the bathroom trying to carry on a conversation about something didn't help, either!).  I don't see the need to deal with that everyday for two kids who will probably be the only ones who see me all day.  And even when I do wear makeup, 99% of the time it's the bare minimum (mascara).  

If no one wears make-up then no one knows any better.  And all those pictures of celebrities are intentionally published because they look so awful–if they looked like an average person then no tabloid would publish them.  And if I were a movie star/super model/what have you that had to wear gobs of make-up for movies and photoshoots and whatnot on a regular basis, then I would go without make-up as frequently as possible for the health of my skin!

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July 4, 2011
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I was joking…

"It is however but Justice, & my Duty to declre that this amiable Woman was entirely innocent of the Crimes with which she was accused, of which her Beauty, her Elegance, & her Sprightliness were sufficient proofs..." Jane Austen.

July 4, 2011
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Meg are you talking about this sketch?  I think this the best looking of all of the paintings/drawings I've seen of Jane.  I'm not sure what to think of the above painting.  It's very different from the others.  Her whole look seems changed. 

 

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Sharon said:

Meg are you talking about this sketch?  I think this the best looking of all of the paintings/drawings I've seen of Jane.  I'm not sure what to think of the above painting.  It's very different from the others.  Her whole look seems changed. 

 

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Yes!!  And I agree with Bella who said that the portrait above (not the sketch here) looks unfinished somehow.  Her face looks so one-dimensional and puffy which makes me wonder if this was painted while she was pregnant.  None of the other paintings I've seen of her have made her face appear so…unattractive.  I'm not going to lie–she was no Anne or even KoA as a younger queen, but I don't think she was all THAT unattractive.  I've always liked the work that Holbein did for Henry's queens…they feel so realistic and masterful.  Whereas this portrait looks like it was painted by a novice or something.

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July 4, 2011
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It's sad that we still value attractiveness in women more than thier intelligence .

 

Those values should have been left in the middle ages rather than the 21st century.

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