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Henry & Jane.
August 26, 2011
7:59 pm
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Mya Elise
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I think…Henry only married Jane because he somehow knew she would keep quiet and be fertile. I think he didn't intend to give her a coronation until she gave him a son. I don't think he intended to keep her as a wife unless she gave him what he wanted. She was a puppet, she was made to open and close her legs whenever needed and her mouth was made to open or close when wanted. Jane Seymour was a doormat, in every sense. And despite how she got there…i feel bad for her plain Jane self. No woman deserves to be treated that way even if she entered willingly and even if things were different back then. I don't even think Jane loved Henry, i think she was afraid of him and for her life. I would be too. Maybe her brothers & father really did push her towards Henry? If so, what makes her different then Anne? 

Maybe, just maybe, Jane's family ambition took over her future and since she had saw what happend to KOA & Anne she was prepared and knew not to talk unless asked to…?

This is not supposed to make everyone mad. It's just a Theory and maybe we are being to harsh on her? 

*Remember please don't get mad at me…i'm just suggesting possibilites. 

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August 26, 2011
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I've mentioned before how IF JS was so concerned about H8/KoA's marriage being legal..why did she allow thier  (platonic/non sexual ?) relationship appear to start at the end of  1535 or at later at the time of KoA's death?

JS was part of the plan to re-instate Mary as the heiress to the throne under the Imperial Party headed by Chapuys.

 

The fertility of the Seymour family was well known. Her parents had a large family of healthy children. Her brother Edward had several children also.

It's always bunnies.

August 26, 2011
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I have often wondered how much her family were involved in pushing her towards the king.  She was past 'marriageable age' when she caught the attention of Henry, (I think) and weren't females just the chattels of their families with no real rights? Maybe she felt she didnt have a choice. (i'm just playing Devil's advocate here, i'm inclined to think she was a two faced snake lol)

'If honour were profitable, everybody would be honourable'  Thomas More

August 26, 2011
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Didn't Jane demand that her ladies wear more pearls than Anne's ladies did? To show that she was above Anne in some way?

"It is however but Justice, & my Duty to declre that this amiable Woman was entirely innocent of the Crimes with which she was accused, of which her Beauty, her Elegance, & her Sprightliness were sufficient proofs..." Jane Austen.

August 27, 2011
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hey hey hey like i said i'm not trying to sound like a Seymour lover i'm just really trying to understand Jane and trying to understand why Henry thought she was so worth it. 

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August 31, 2011
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Elliemarianna said:

Didn't Jane demand that her ladies wear more pearls than Anne's ladies did? To show that she was above Anne in some way?

Yes – she demanded they wear English hoods rather than French hoods and there were supposed to be a certain number of pearls on their girdles. She confined her bossiness to the domestic sphere! More to prove she was different than above I think.

December 28, 2011
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I think Jane was forced into the marriage by her family and the enemies of the Boleyn Family also she couldn't say no to the king.

December 30, 2011
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I don't believe Jane was fully forced into the marriage. No,no,no…uh huh. I think she had something to do with whatever went on. I'm sorry i can;t believe she was an innocent angel. But i also think her family much like Anne's family put alot of pressure of them because they saw the the possibility of Henry leaving his wife for Anne.

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