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Future Careers in History?
February 24, 2016
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Future Careers in History?

First off I would like to apologize I have not been posting as much as I should. I always have a lot of bad things going on in my life. For example, I have chronic health issues. When I am not feeling sick, somebody close to me ends up getting sick. Luckily the past month everyone seems to be doing well (I have been okay and my father just got out of the hospital). Hopefully it stays like that.

As I said in my introduction post when I joined the forum, history is my passion. It has always been my favorite subject. Some people see learning about history as a chore, but I see it as an adventure. I have really begun a real study of history I would say once I started college a couple years ago. However, when I started school with my meritorious trustee’s scholarship for full tuition for one year, I was going for computer science. I was told that even though history was my passion, it would be a fruitless effort because I would make no money. I was a very good computer programmer who could also code and maintain websites, and knew how to work on certain kind of databases as well. However, I have always had a weakness when it came to school… Algebra.

Now I can do basic math and basic algebra equations. But when you have to take a class where they force you to solve an equation with 9 variables, a bunch of factors, square roots, other things, it goes completely over my head. Not to mention this was around the same time when my health issues got worse and I had to withdrawal from the classes where my professors were understanding, or I failed from the professors who didn’t understand people get sick. Overall however, this made me think. I love computers and making computer programs, but my true passion is history, and I want to be a historian. I think that is what I am meant to be, if I ever was meant to be something. Ever since I have been taking history classes at my community college (I never went to a full university yet) I have been getting A+ on every exam and course, along with all of the humanities, English, & social sciences I take. I am very right brain.

So what is the purpose of this post? Well the rambling of the last paragraphs brings me to this point. I definitely want to be a history major and get a master’s or doctorate’s in history if I can afford it, but… what job should I get with it? When most people think of history degree’s they think of public school teachers… but that isn’t for me; Four years of high school was enough for me, I hated it. There is archeology which requires a degree of its own of course, but history is very helpful along those lines. Apparently you can even use your history degree to help you get a law degree, but of course you still have to study law too.

What I am leaning forward to at the moment is being a museum curator who in their free time also writes nonfiction books on history and maybe some fiction once in a blue moon as well. Sort of like David Starkey, Suzannah Lipscomb, or Dan Jones. I am really influenced by historians like David, Suzannah, & Dan because not only are they experts who seem to have infinite knowledge on all historical time periods, but they make learning about it fun! In fact, reading their books, seeing their lectures on YouTube, and watching their TV shows I believe lit the spark that made me want to become a historian. So yes, that would be my dream job; Work as a museum curator helping keep the place in shape and adding the new exhibits so people can learn about their heritage and tourists across the world can see its glory while in my free time I could write books (I love writing).

So that is all I have for now. I apologize if someone posted something like this before but I couldn’t find anyone writing something similar on the forum. I just wanted to share that with fellow historians and Anne Boleyn/Tudor fans who understand the love for history in their hearts. If anyone here has any experience with being a history major, trying to get a job in a history field, would like to give constructive criticism, or just wanted to say hello, don’t be afraid too. I don’t bite. Cool

Ciao

-Ethan

March 14, 2016
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Hi Ethan!

My name is Bieke and I am from Belgium. Until a few months ago I studied history at the Catholic University of Leuven, working for my bachelor degree.
Every week at the beginning of our first class, we got a little information about the activities that you could do after school from older students.
They also gave some info about certain talks you could go to, discussing the possibilities of a job after college. This turns out not to be so black and white as some people seem to think, later on when I followed the class of Introduction to Historical Research this became all the more clear.

We learned there that the skills that a historian has to develop to effectively do an investigation in the past, are also those that one expects from a journalist. For example: how one approaches primary and secundary sources. But it is not just that. Organising archives, maintaining them and watching over them are also options – since they are also sources. Working in libraries is also handy – see the sentence before.

There are so many history-related jobs and of course there is the option of an academical career. But this is in Belgium. Is it possible that an education in history in Britain is formulated as historical scholarship? I think I read something about it.
But maybe this is some better advice – and I hope possible in England: to have a job that is somehow related to history or historical knowledge, you have to ask yourself: what does a historian do? What made them historians and what skills did they have to develop to accomplish this? And are these skills also required in other jobs, say: journalist? Or, as you said yourself: a museum? In archives or libraries?

Any way, I think some really succesful people in the country came to talk about their lives after their education. Some were the CEO’s of great news papers and some worked in the media-industry. It is all pretty amazing.

Of course you don’t have to go to an university. But although I went for a short time – being a history lover also in my spare time – I can definitely tell you that the knowledge you will get and the skills you’ll learn, are very very helpful in itself. I am currently doing research to write historical fiction and I must say (since I also want to use primary sources) it is very hard without the right knowledge on how to do it. So that is definitely a plus. Another good thing is that the things you already know by your passion for history, will get academic backing. It gives you more perspective on the bigger picture.

I hope this has helped you a little. Before I went to college, years before, my sister used to say that all people who study history, end up driving busses. She is a very nice person, though 🙂 Anyway, she looks at it differently now. As do I. I hope you do too.

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March 14, 2016
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Biekm said

Hi Ethan!

My name is Bieke and I am from Belgium. Until a few months ago I studied history at the Catholic University of Leuven, working for my bachelor degree.
Every week at the beginning of our first class, we got a little information about the activities that you could do after school from older students.
They also gave some info about certain talks you could go to, discussing the possibilities of a job after college. This turns out not to be so black and white as some people seem to think, later on when I followed the class of Introduction to Historical Research this became all the more clear.

We learned there that the skills that a historian has to develop to effectively do an investigation in the past, are also those that one expects from a journalist. For example: how one approaches primary and secundary sources. But it is not just that. Organising archives, maintaining them and watching over them are also options – since they are also sources. Working in libraries is also handy – see the sentence before.

There are so many history-related jobs and of course there is the option of an academical career. But this is in Belgium. Is it possible that an education in history in Britain is formulated as historical scholarship? I think I read something about it.
But maybe this is some better advice – and I hope possible in England: to have a job that is somehow related to history or historical knowledge, you have to ask yourself: what does a historian do? What made them historians and what skills did they have to develop to accomplish this? And are these skills also required in other jobs, say: journalist? Or, as you said yourself: a museum? In archives or libraries?

Any way, I think some really succesful people in the country came to talk about their lives after their education. Some were the CEO’s of great news papers and some worked in the media-industry. It is all pretty amazing.

Of course you don’t have to go to an university. But although I went for a short time – being a history lover also in my spare time – I can definitely tell you that the knowledge you will get and the skills you’ll learn, are very very helpful in itself. I am currently doing research to write historical fiction and I must say (since I also want to use primary sources) it is very hard without the right knowledge on how to do it. So that is definitely a plus. Another good thing is that the things you already know by your passion for history, will get academic backing. It gives you more perspective on the bigger picture.

I hope this has helped you a little. Before I went to college, years before, my sister used to say that all people who study history, end up driving busses. She is a very nice person, though 🙂 Anyway, she looks at it differently now. As do I. I hope you do too.

Biekm

I wouldn’t say writing historical fiction is hard, as most of it down to imagination, but getting the timelines right can be very taxing and tedious times. I’ve been writing my own book now for over 2 years and in that time I must have edited it a hundred times and then some..
Some of our members have been successful in managing to get their books published and I have a great sense of respect for them and take pride in their books, and apprieciate the long hours of work they must have put into writing them.
Writing a book does take a long time If I have remember it rightly Claire Cherry was writing her book about George Boleyn for 7 years, and as a result, due to through research has produced a book with Claire Ridgway which is very informative and interesting.
You really don’t need all the fancy bells and whistles after your name to be a writer of historical fiction, (well any genre of book really) all you need is the determination to write and do the research behind it all.
You are right about having passion for history and that one thing we can all say honestly here, we do have a passion for history, we may not always agree with each other about certain things to do with, the “why’s what’s and wherefore’s” but we are all adult enough to agree to disagree, and we all have respect for each other.

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March 14, 2016
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Indeed: it is not the writing that is hard, it is the work that goes behind it. I also agree with you that it doesn’t matter if you have a college degree or not. Passion and the will to do the research is more than enough to write any book of any genre – I mean, this site and all these amazing people are the proof of it. In my short adventure of college it was just interesting to see the system behind it all or at the least the systems the historians at the university used.
Plus of course the courses of early modern history and the medieval world: every time the Tudors were involved or the wars of the roses or any kind of English history I just wanted to wave a flag in enthusiasm – I remember at my exam thinking furiously ‘please, please ask me about the Tudors and I shall be very very happy’ lol. I think I was like a fangirl going to the a concert of her favourite band for the first time. But we got more info about the histories of the Netherlands or France or any other kind of European power back then – which was interesting in itself of course. But I always find English history the best – Belgian history which starts technically about 1830 is so dull in my eyes. I remember one person who worked at the faculty going on about how interesting and addicting the history of the French Revolution was. I thought to myself: well, then you haven’t seen the Tudors yet 🙂

March 15, 2016
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Yes this is true, I have to admit that English history has some very colourful charathers in it’s past. Fat arse Henry is always the first one that springs to mind with many people though. I don’t know whether that is because he is known for 6 wives or what he did to them. 2 of them he had chopped up, another 2 he disguarded when they proved unfit for purpose. 1 of them her let die and the last one he browbeat into submission and made her life a complete misery. ( I bet when he finally kicked the bucket she clapped her hands and stamped her feet all over his fat ugly face) was a complete git to everyone and everything around him. In my opinion Fat arse was nothing but a lying poor bleeding martyr, sad sack of stinking muck who had a microscopic dooberry which didn’t work. (I really don’t like Fat arse.. Well duh)
Scottish History is very different very bloodthirsty, blood fueds and all sorts of conspirities and murders. Many of the monarchs either died in battle or were murdered. It’s a very interesting and complex history.
James the 6th at least faired a little better, but his reign wasn’t without it’s problems, and there were a few assasination attempts, against James long before came to the English throne and before the Gunpowder Plot. He earned the epitaph as being “The wisest fool in Christendom” but was he really a fool when he was the first Scottish king to die in his bed of natural causes?

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