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Do you think the Royal Family are suffering publicly more now than in Tudor times?
July 21, 2013
7:59 pm
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HEIDI*BULLEN
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This question is kicked off from another discussion i was having in : how would you stop Anne marrying H8.

Now our Royal Family are in the media spotlight a lot easier now and more accessible. Do you think the Royal Family are suffering publicly more now than in Tudor times?

How different or similar are the media and yes maybe even some cases the common people treating them, to how they were treated back in H8 time?

Apart from the inner court circle, i maybe wrong but at least the common people to me, ( not saying most don’t now, i’m proud how most are loyal. Just the few that let us down and the Royals.) had more respect for the Royals then. Staying a good distance away, not bad mouthing unless H8 decided to execute another wife or divorce on a whim.

From what i am seeing now, it’s a shame that the popularity now, has got to the point, they are hiding themselves away and getting more protection from the mainstream media. I think a lot of respect has been lost and yes back in Tudor times, there was gossip from court and enemies.
Back then you lost your head over accusations, because proof would have been harder to get and if there is enough powerful people that proof magically appeared.
Now, it’s still dangerous the Royals being chased as they are. Cry

I am interested in them as everybody else. But not in personal circumstances that we are not invited in and definitely not in some cases how printed information has been gotten.

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July 22, 2013
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far more intrusive,
far more international
far more 24/7/52
far more concentrated on trivia..”Kate..Shread Wheat or Weetabix for breakkie??”, ” Wills.. boxers or briefs???”

I think with the recent abdications of Queen Beatrix and King Albert, some people are starting to think that Elizabeth may step down once the Cambridge’s baby is born. Especially since Prince Philip is currently in poor health.

A couple of years ago, when the Bloc Quebecois were a political force they wanted to remove the Queen and the rest of the royal family from the Canadian Consitution but that fizzled out. There new inheritance law was being challenged here due to some minor legal detail but has either passed or will pass soon.

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July 22, 2013
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Oooh, Kate’s gone into labour….
Poor woman; you just know the media would report the whole thing push by painful push if they were allowed to. Giving birth knowing the worlds media and assorted ‘fans’ are camped just outside must be surreal.

July 22, 2013
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Quick question: Were the media hanging on the door step when Diana was in labour with William, or did we not even know she had gone into labour?

I’d like to think that Kate is actually in a totally different place delivering this baby. But i say that as I want the easel option to be the first place it is revealed, not some stupid news channel or social media. I know Kate expects the media to be following her but I feel sorry for this young lady having to give birth for the first time under such scrutiny. I can only imagine how terrifying and stressful in must be giving birth to your first child WITHOUT the world watching, what must she be thinking.

And to keep on topic, I think today there has been a loss of simple respect of protocol. Here in Australia, for ages the media referred to William, Kate, Harry even Camilla. It bugged me that they couldnt show repsect by adding their title or even a HRH. Yes they are normal people (to a degree) but gee respect protocol. Thankfully I’ve noticed a recent change and they are now referring to Duke and Duchess of Cambridge at least.

July 22, 2013
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They were….waiting like vultures!

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July 23, 2013
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It’s A BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CONGRATULATIONS ENGLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KATE AND WILLIAM DESERVE A LOVELY BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kinda makes one think of what pressure Anne Boleyn was in too, and then knowing Queen Elizabeth was born…..but stupid henry had to hype everyone up about the baby being a boy!!! Why didn’t he just be quiet and let things be, that psycho!

-"Trust in those who offer you service, and in the end my maidens, you will find yourselves in the ranks of those who have been deceived" - Archduchess Margaret of Austria.

July 23, 2013
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Anyanka said

far more intrusive,
far more international
far more 24/7/52
far more concentrated on trivia..”Kate..Shread Wheat or Weetabix for breakkie??”, ” Wills.. boxers or briefs???”

I think with the recent abdications of Queen Beatrix and King Albert, some people are starting to think that Elizabeth may step down once the Cambridge’s baby is born. Especially since Prince Philip is currently in poor health.

A couple of years ago, when the Bloc Quebecois were a political force they wanted to remove the Queen and the rest of the royal family from the Canadian Consitution but that fizzled out. There new inheritance law was being challenged here due to some minor legal detail but has either passed or will pass soon.

Strangely enough Anyanka that’s exactly what Dinosaur said. I do feel that as good as the queen has been and she is it’s time she stepped down and gave it a rest. She isn’t up to doing the tours that are expected by a ruling monarch, and as you say Prince Philip isn’t a well man I would have thought she would have wanted to spend some time with him before he pops his clogs.
I also feel that the throne shouldn’t go to Jug ears (Prince Charles) because he is not with it, in the sence that he belongs to a much older time. The monarchy need to have youth in it, and Jug ears has too many Victorian type attitudes to be a success as King in a modern world. William should be the next King.
There is another question here too. At the moment we have jug ears who is next in line to the throne then William and now Baby Cambridge. As we know Jug ears is prince of Wales, now if he takes the throne, does that mean that William can become Prince of Wales? or will the title go to Baby Cambridge?

Semper Fidelis, quod sum quod

July 23, 2013
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Prince of Wales is the title given the the first son of the ruling monarch so Prince William would become PoW with his son becoming prince X of Wales, just like Prince Harry is now known.

What title if any that could be granted to Prince Harry is up in the airat the moment. I don’t think the Queen will give him one until he marries, Charles may even if he’s unmarried at the time of his succession.

I’ve heard that they are keeping the duchy of Edinborough for Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex.

Eta..I don’t think Charles would reign for very long, much like his great-great-grandfather Edward VII. He’s already 65/6, I think.

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July 26, 2013
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Upon marriage the second son of a ruling monarch is usually given the title Duke of York, a title that Andrew currently holds. Once Charles becomes King and once Harry marries I wonder if Andrew will be given a different title? Does anyone know?

July 26, 2013
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Louise said

Upon marriage the second son of a ruling monarch is usually given the title Duke of York, a title that Andrew currently holds. Once Charles becomes King and once Harry marries I wonder if Andrew will be given a different title? Does anyone know?

I beleive that Andrew keeps the title until he dies. Then it can be given to the second son of the ruling monarch. I don’t think it can be removed any other way.

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