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The Other Boleyn Girl VS Bring Up The Bodies
July 16, 2012
3:21 am
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Bella44
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Can’t wait for your review Olga; even though I loved BUTB, I can understand why others didn’t. And I always like reading others opinions and viewpoints about books Laugh

Did someone on Goodreads say Anne slept with her brother in regards to BUTB? Oh dear….

July 16, 2012
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Yes, they did. Maybe they were being silly, I think I started wailing when I saw it and didn’t read any further Laugh I think Mantel has a very large audience so it’s a bit disturbing.
On another note I discovered a new biography about Cromwell when I was looking for links to Schofield and Hutchinson’s biographies, has anyone read any of Patrick Coby’s books? It’s due out this month apparently.

July 16, 2012
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Olga, Really great review! Summed it up beautifully. Smile

July 17, 2012
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Noooo, it was really mean, I’m feeling a bit guilty. But thanks Laugh

July 17, 2012
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Olga said

Actually the only person I have seen who doesn’t like this book besides me is Louise, Duchess. Laugh Everyone else I have seen gives it four or five stars.

Just becaue I like the book, does not mean I would give it a four or five star. I also appreciate why other do not like it, and want to better understand why. Equally to the point, I am fascinated why some people love TOBG.

"By daily proof you shall find me to be to you both loving and kind" Anne Boleyn

July 17, 2012
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Olga, where is your review? I can’t find it.Embarassed

July 17, 2012
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On Goodreads Lou, or my blog. I’ll email you the link if you’re not on Goodreads yet.

July 17, 2012
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I couldn’t see it on Goodreads, although I don’t have an account with them, but I can see other reviews. What’s your blog?

July 18, 2012
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I’ve sent you a PM Louise.
Duchess I just saw your reply, and you know what? I didn’t believe for a minute after reading TOBG, which was probably the most I had read on the Boleyns at the time, that Anne was guilty, even though it was suggested. I still think it is more subtle than the way BUTB was handled. I reckon if I had read a Hilary Mantel book without knowing anything, I might believe it.
At the point I read TOBG I had only read books about Elizabeth, I wasn’t into the earlier Tudor History. I found a book by Starkey on Henry at the bookshop up the road and I pretty much haven’t stopped reading history books since, something I could never manage before. I got most of my ideas from Gregory’s bibliographies, which are probably my favourite things about her books. I did come away after reading TOBG assuming George was gay (please don’t kill me Louise) but as she had quoted the actual source for the theory, I hunted down Warnicke’s book and read it.
If I had read BUTB first I don’t think it would have compelled me to read further at all, in the edition I read there is an author note with a mention of historians, but certainly not a full bibliography. So if you ask me who I think would do more “damage” to an unsuspecting public I would think it’s Mantel. Gregory, to me, has always seemed to encourage readers to delve further into history, I don’t get that from Mantel at all.
And after that little ramble, the reason I like Philippa Gregory’s books is because she always encourages me to read more.

July 18, 2012
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Just read your review Olga, and whilst I don’t entirely agree with all of it, I can understand where you’re coming from. I had to laugh though about your comments on ‘Chapyus’ excellent Christmas hat’! I’d forgotten about that Laugh

Part of what I like about Mantel (apart from funny asides about silly hats!) is her prose. I know some people don’t like it but I do – and it makes a real difference from how most historical novels are written. Sometimes I get bored with a more traditional first person narrative, some books can get a bit same-y after a while.

July 18, 2012
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That’s just a personal thing Bella, I’ve always noticed it with readers. Some of them hate first person, I don’t mind it myself, but some of them claim it can make for hopeless secondary characters. I always figure that’s up to the writer. I hate present tense, I gave up on a book earlier this year because of it, although I think I should give it another go. Because I’m a fantasy reader I expect far too much in the way of world building when I am reading other books, and it’s probably not fair, but there you have it.
And I hate that style of writing, usually. It depends on who the author is, obviously I think some can pull it off, and to be fair if I had liked the content of the book more I wouldn’t be bagging her out on it so much. But then when she pulled out some really big words I was rolling my eyes. I kept imagining her brandishing a large Thesaurus at me Laugh

The hat impressed me. I got three visuals out of that book (I usually expect to get more visually, again that’s a personal thing), one was the hat, one was Anne in a little silver cap, and one was Cromwell’s wife making a braid.

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