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The Boleyn Inheritance Movie.
September 5, 2011
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Mya Elise
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Did you know the same people who made The other Boleyn girl movie have rights and full permission to make The Boleyn inheritance a movie? It'll be a sequel to TOBG. There is no word that they are going to make the movie but it's entirely possible. I liked TBI but the historical accuracy and the fact people believe PG's work to be true makes me so agitated !

Anyone else opposed to this maybe future movie?…..

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September 5, 2011
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{shudders}….I could only watch it in a padded room.

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September 6, 2011
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Hmm.  Ok, I wasn't too fond of TOBG in book form, but the film masacred not only history, but the book too.  I did enjot TBI, but doubt I'll enjoy the film if it's made by the same people.  The script for TOBG was rubbish, and it was miscast (Eric Bana as Henry?  Why?).  I hope it doesn't happen.

September 6, 2011
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Hmm.  Ok, I wasn't too fond of TOBG in book form, but the film massacred not only history, but the book too.  I did enjoy TBI, but doubt I'll enjoy the film if it's made by the same people.  The script for TOBG was rubbish, and it was miscast (Eric Bana as Henry?  Why?).  I hope it doesn't happen.

 

Dunno why it double posted.  Sorry

September 6, 2011
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Hmmm it would be quite an entertaining film if the script and cast were right…but then again; we'd have to put up with Phillipa Gregory on the red carpet telling everyone how 'historically accurate' the film and book were Confused

September 6, 2011
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haha i know! I don't think i could stand listening to PG brag about she knows everything and how wonderful her books are. Sorry, honey, they're not.

Also @ SG, i was watching TOBG last night out of boredum and i spent the movie pointing out errors and everytime Eric Bana came on the scene i kept thinking to myself 'First of all, Henry VIII had red hair and i'm assuming blue eyes not brown hair and brown eyes. Of course people would think Anne cheated! How could Elizabeth have bright red hair with two parents with dark brwm?! I also had a problem with this in The Tudors. JRM had brown hair blue eyes and Anne had the same and somehow Elizabeth in the show had red hair…?

I think they invented colored contacts for a reason….

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September 6, 2011
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Genetically speaking it is possible for parents of non-red hair to have a red haired child. I am living proof of that. Red hair is a recessive gene to all other hair colours. So within the film world of TOBG and The Tudors, Anne and Henry could have had non-red hair and still had the flaming red haired child of Elizabeth, as all is required is for Henry and Anne to be heterozygous in their hair colour.

If we take the simple approach to hair colour and pretend that only 1 gene is involved (in fact there a multiple genes hence the variety of hair colours). If Brown hair is dominant to red hair. Henry and Anne could be either Homozygous Brown (BB) or Heterozygous Brown (Bb). Red hair in this example will be (bb). If either Henry or Anne were Homozygous Brown it would be impossible for Elizabeth to be red hair as the only genotype Elizaneth could be would be (BB) or (Bb). The (B) will mask the (b) allele producing brown hair. However, if BOTH are Heterozygous, they both are able to contribute a (b) allele, which would produce a red haired child. This allowing two brown haired people to have a red haired child.

So scientifically speaking the movie is accurate, the historical accurancy is another matter.

September 6, 2011
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Well yeah i know it's possible. I have a friend who has a sister who has a little boy with the lightest blonde hair but both parents have dark brown hair.

My point is in reality Henry VIII did have red hair which is where Elizabeth got it. And she got her amber eyes from Anne. Elizabeth inherited her coloring from her parents. Henry got his red hair i'm assuming from his mother and so on and so on. If people are gonna make a movie or TV show they should at least have the appearances right, that's probably the easiest part. Like i said before, people invented wigs and hair dye and colored contacts for a reason. The are still some people in world that want to see almost everything historically accurate, and i for one am still waiting for something to come out with Anne having brown hair and brown eyes and having her story told right for once. To be honest i'd be the first one to buy a movie ticket if Claire wrote a script for a Anne Boleyn movie ! 

*I do love the Tudors and everything but a lot of the inaccuracies are overwhelming. I think the closest to Anne's real appearance and real story is Anne Of a Thousand Days, they made one damn good movie. 

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September 6, 2011
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Elizabeth got her red hair from both her parents. Even though Anne had brown hair, she was still required to have the allele for red hair to guarantee Elizabeth got red hair. I understand historically it is better for Henry to have red hair, especially since most people associated him with red hair, but I was just responding to your statement that it looks silly that two brown haired people produced a red hair child.

These days red hair is apparently a fading hair colour genetic wise- but back during The Tudor times, there were many people with red hair so the recessive red allele would have been more common in non-red hair heterozygous people. Which meant that if a red haired person procreated with a non-red head there was a greater chance of red hair occuring on the child – as was the case with all of Henry's children. And even Queen Jane.

So genetically speaking it is not such a huge WTF that Eric Bana and Natalie Portman produced a red haired child.

I too have issues with the way Henry is protrayed in media, cause I hate how The Tudors has Henry all handsome and fit with his last 3 wives, making at least 2 of them look like strange idiots for 'rejecting' the handsome prince. When in fact, if they showed himn as the fat ugly man he became you could imagine why they didn't fall all over him with love.

September 6, 2011
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I think they should have at least stayed true to appearances since there were already enough false things. Especially in the cases of The other Boleyn girl & The Tudors. I mean at least JRM had blue eyes and not brown like Bana did. JRM acted great as Henry and it was easy to overlook the physical flaws but with Eric Bana i could not stop getting frustrated about his false brown eyes and false brown hair. The only thing okay with Eric physical wise was that he was wider, taller and more athletically built than JRM, JRM's Henry was shorter and 'tinier' than a lot of people where in reality Henry was always taller and bigger than everyone. 

I think they should of had JRM fake gain the weight in season 3 because that's when he really started gaining all that weight. In season 4 during the last few episodes he finally gets old like overnight and that must be confusing for people watching and having no knowledge before hand.  

The issue with the red hair is no big deal but it would have been nicer if they either dyed Bana & JRM's hair or had wigs OR gotten more accurate Henry's. But please keep in mind i loved JRM's portrayal of Henry, he was wonderful. And Bana did his job and acted and made it believable despite my dislike for The other Boleyn girl. 

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September 8, 2011
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I'm up for any of these sort of films as I take them for what they are just entertaining films and I don't dwell on all the inaccuracies purely because my view is at least someone is keeping history alive, most films aren't anything like the real events. This sort of history is always long forgotten by the average person these days so at least any film is good in my opinion.

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September 8, 2011
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It would be a movie I'd see. I hope, if it is made, that it's not plagued with the problems of TOBG. The great thing about TBI is it delves into the lesser known wives, and how Anne's death still had repercusions years later.

I hope Juno Temple returns as Jane Rochford. She was great in TOBG and an up-and-coming British actress, and not re-cast Eric Bana, but find an actor who resembles Henry.

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September 8, 2011
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I do appreciate the fact people still like to keep history alive with movies & shows, especially history that was made basically 500 years ago. What would really make me happy is the red hair for Henry VIII. That's all. If they finally just gave the man red hair and maybe a tall athletic build i'll never say anything or complain again. But like I've said before, the physical appearances are probably the easiest part, so why not make that at least correct or near to correct?

If they made this movie of course i'd see it, i couldn't restrain myself even if i tried. Inwardly i'd judge it though because that's a natural instinct. In my mind i'd correct the errors but nonetheless try to enjoy the movie with an open mind. I can't ask them to make it fully and completely correct because 1. It's Phillipa Gregory's book and her books are  completely full of incorrect things 2. No one knows exactly what the heck happened back then so i guess they have rights to make stuff up and let their imaginations run loose ( but hopefully not too loose! ). The things that bother me to no end is when PG sets herself up to be a historian when she's not and people believe her. I hate when people come up to me asking why i'm so interested in a wh*re who schemes & steals men, has a cold heart, and considers incest with her own brother. Honestly that would bother anyone who likes Anne Boleyn and is interested in finding the real truth about her. 

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September 8, 2011
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I'd go see the movie too if they make it, regardless.  I did prefer TBI to TOBG, and if my memory serves me correctly, didn't PG backtrack on the incest thing in TBI, having Jane Rochford admit she falsely accused them?  Maybe it's just wishful thinking.  It's a while since I read TBI.  And even though I think Hollywood made a huge mess with TBOG, I do still watch it on occasion.  And I agree that Juno Temple was very good, though she was barely in it.  The most redeeming features of that film were the supporting cast I think.  Scarlet Johansson just got on my nerves.

September 8, 2011
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Yeah i thought that was kinda funny that Jane was all remorseful in TBI and everything incest was denied blah blah blah. But i did like TBI better than TOBG except that they showed Katheryn Howard as an airhead but they did that in The Tudors too sooo….

Laugh @ SG, why did Scar Jo get on your nerves? I thought she did okay acting wise despite the fact they made Mary Boleyn as an oh so innocent saint. 

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September 8, 2011
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It was the innocent saint part that got to me I think.  To be fair, I'm not the hugest fan of PG's Anne either.  It's the character I found irritating really rather than Scarlett, as I found her a bit one dimensional.  The same could be said for Natalie Portman's Anne, though I thought she had a bit more depth.  Then again the film focused on her rather than Mary.  Like I said in a previous post the problem was more the script I think.  I'm still baffled how a film that had such good actors could be as bad as it was.  When I'm in the right mood I do find it entertaining, for the wrong reasons. 

I was glad that PG backtracked a bit with TBI.  Perhaps it means that she's not so convinced about the incest?  Hmm.  Would be nice if she dropped the murder charge as well.  I would love to know PG's source for that one.

September 8, 2011
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I didn't like Phillipa's Anne either. I honestly couldn't stand her. In the other Boleyn girl i hated her but in reality I've come to love her. I felt sorry for both girls in TOBG though because their parents (and uncle) are cruel and have no affection or feelings for anything. And the part in the book where Anne wishes death on both Jane and her hypothetical children was…there are no words for how wrong that was. 

I also think the real problem was the script. It was a shitty script. I have nothing against the actors though – Eric Bana is a great actor, Scarlett is a good actress, Kristin Thomas Scott is great, and Natalie Portman is one of my favorite actresses. They did their job for the film; They acted and made it pretty believable which is what they get paid for. 

The only time i can watch it and be able to stand it is when i'm tired and falling asleep or when i'm in a really really good mood.

Phillipa's sources are probably just the voices in her head ; ) 

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September 8, 2011
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Mya-Elise. said:

Phillipa’s sources are probably just the voices in her head ; )

 

LOL – ’tis off to the asylum for you Ms. Gregory! 

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THanks Bella…another lost drink..

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So I've just finished reading TBI and discussed my thoughts on the book in another thread. IF they ever decided to make the movie of TBI, the one big recommendation I would have to give them is they would need to streamline it and make one of the ladies the main character that sees the events. Obviously this would require Jane Rochford to be the main character. I just think there would be too much jumping around if all three got to tell their stories. ANd considering the first movie played wit hthe facts it wouldn't be that hard to have Jane visit Anne Of Cleves, of have Anne Of Cleves visit court more often to tell her saga.

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