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What killed Amy Dudley?
October 16, 2017
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What (or who) do you killed Amy Dudley?

October 16, 2017
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This is quite hotly been debated over the years, my personal opinion is that it was nothing more than a tragic accident.
She was known to have a lump in her breast, which was believed to be Cancer, no one at the time realised that Cancer can spread like wildfire through the body and my guess is the cancer had spread to her neck and the poor girl was in terrible pain. On the day of her death sending her servants away was perhaps a way of her getting some peace from the continued pratterlings.
She woke up feeling very unwell and decided to go down and find Mrs Owen who perhaps was the only one who could really help her, on her way down the stairs she slipped the jolt was enough to snap the bones in her neck killing her, naturally she fell down the stairs.
When she was found the serants perhaps thinking of her dignity rearranged her clothes so that when the doctor came it looked for all intenets and perposes that Amy had been murdered by someone known or unknown.
However there were 2 injuries on her head, but I believe they were caused when she fell down the stairs..
Poor Amy.

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November 29, 2017
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I believe it was a horrible accident. She had sent everyone away that morning. I think she wanted to be left in peace for a while so she gave her servants a day off. I think she may have slipped on the stairs and fell to her death. Not for a minute do I believe Robert had her killed. There is another theory that Cecil had her killed. Cecil, like Robert and everyone else, would have known that Amy was very ill. It was well known at court. Why kill her? It just doesn’t fit for me. It was a very tragic accident. Yes, poor Amy, and poor Robert. I think they were truly in love when they married. It wasn’t a marriage of convenience like it was for his brothers. Robert and Amy were said to have been genuinely in love.

November 30, 2017
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I have to go with a tragic accident as well.

Certainly Robert Dudley had enemies aplenty who would rejoice if the suspicion of murder would fall on him after Amy’s death. The lack of any condemnation at the time is proof, I believe that he was innocent.

I know one of the ambassadors* at Elizabeth’s court tried to make a play that Elizabeth know of Amy’s “malady in her breast” to secure rumours of Robert’s involvement with Elizabeth’s blessing.

* I keep wanting to type Chapuys but I know he was dead by then and I’m too tired to look up exactly who it was.

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November 30, 2017
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Anyanka said
I have to go with a tragic accident as well.

Certainly Robert Dudley had enemies aplenty who would rejoice if the suspicion of murder would fall on him after Amy’s death. The lack of any condemnation at the time is proof, I believe that he was innocent.

I know one of the ambassadors* at Elizabeth’s court tried to make a play that Elizabeth know of Amy’s “malady in her breast” to secure rumours of Robert’s involvement with Elizabeth’s blessing.

* I keep wanting to type Chapuys but I know he was dead by then and I’m too tired to look up exactly who it was.  

François van der Delft 1545 to 1550
Jean Scheyfve. 1550 to 1553,
Simon Renard who had the ear of Queen Mary had no love for Scheyfve.
Gómez Suárez de Figueroa y Córdoba, 1st Duke of Feria. 1553 to 1559
Bishop Alvarez de Quadra.1559 to 1564, it believed he died of the plague, although Elizabeth had written to the Spanish court requesting he be recalled.

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November 30, 2017
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Anyanka said
I have to go with a tragic accident as well.

Certainly Robert Dudley had enemies aplenty who would rejoice if the suspicion of murder would fall on him after Amy’s death. The lack of any condemnation at the time is proof, I believe that he was innocent.

I know one of the ambassadors* at Elizabeth’s court tried to make a play that Elizabeth know of Amy’s “malady in her breast” to secure rumours of Robert’s involvement with Elizabeth’s blessing.

* I keep wanting to type Chapuys but I know he was dead by then and I’m too tired to look up exactly who it was.  

I think you mean the Spanish ambassador, De Quadra, Anyanka. These Spanish ambassadors love their gossip.

May 28, 2020
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This is suspicious because her husband, since 1558, had been desperately searching for a reason to divorce her, despite their marriage having been a love match. However Dudley failed in his pursuit for a reason to divorce his wife, Amy was a devoted wife, whom adored the very ground he walked upon. Witnesses claim that Amy had been increasingly depressed since the ascension of Elizabeth I, her husband had scarcely written to her since his appointment as Master of the Horse at court. His wife’s death was extremely convenient for Robert Dudley, this draws upon the question, was Amy Dudley murdered?
Robert Dudley and Queen Elizabeth were close childhood friends, there had been rumours of a more intimate relationship between the two. Elizabeth fervently denied the rumour that anything untoward had happened between her and Robert Dudley. Amy’s cause of death was falling down the stairs. However the wounds were too deep, and precise, to be caused by a fall. She had two wounds in her head and her neck was broken, she apparently died instantly. However, I personally find the fall being the cause of death HIGHLY unlikely, there were only 8 steps, to have such extensive injuries she must have fallen down the stairs several times, and I, personally, find that highly unlikely.
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