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The Princes in the Tower
November 18, 2013
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Boleyn
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Just another fly in the old proverbial here for you, but is it possible that the bricklayer, was once the childhood freind of E5?
These companions were often educated along side the royal children, so that surely would be a possibility too.

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November 18, 2013
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He didn’t arrive in Eastwell until 1542 or 1543 Bob, and his name is recorded as “Richard Plantagenet” in the church register so he did exist there under that name. It’s likely Henry didn’t even hear about him, people might have thought he was just a nutter. I don’t think he was Richard’s son in any case, he would have recognised him openly like his other two children.

They could get DNA from EOY easily enough, isn’t every monarch apparently descended from her?

November 18, 2013
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Olga said

He didn’t arrive in Eastwell until 1542 or 1543 Bob, and his name is recorded as “Richard Plantagenet” in the church register so he did exist there under that name. It’s likely Henry didn’t even hear about him, people might have thought he was just a nutter. I don’t think he was Richard’s son in any case, he would have recognised him openly like his other two children.

They could get DNA from EOY easily enough, isn’t every monarch apparently descended from her?

Yes but I doubt the Queen would allow permission for EOY body and DNA to be diddled with. Certainly it would solve once and for all about the bones buried with EW and E4, about the boy’s. I.e are they or aren’t they ther boy’s…

It could well be that this bricklayer spent a lot of time in church and picked up the latin language. It’s not an easy language to conquer, but I can speak it after a fashion. Well my signiture is Latin as you probably know.. I have a feeling that, you, Sharon, Bob and Anyanka know what it means.

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November 18, 2013
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Boleyn, now this I know. Always Faithful, That What I Am.

Bob, Just a very small correction, Arthur Plantagenet wasn’t beheaded. He languished in the Tower for two years, and then he was told he would be released. A few days later he suffered a heart attack and died. He was between the ages of 65-79 when he died. Poor guy.

BTW, I am really enjoying reading this thread.

November 18, 2013
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Olga said

They could get DNA from EOY easily enough, isn’t every monarch apparently descended from her?

Yes but if you are after maternal mitrochronidal DNA which is the easiest currently to propergate, then youneed a direct-line dughter to daughter descendant other wise the DNA is from another family. The current queen’s mDNA is that from the female line which ended up in Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon’s genes.

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November 18, 2013
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Boleyn said

It could well be that this bricklayer spent a lot of time in church and picked up the latin language. It’s not an easy language to conquer, but I can speak it after a fashion. Well my signiture is Latin as you probably know.. I have a feeling that, you, Sharon, Bob and Anyanka know what it means.

Thanks for bringing back 5 years of ‘O’Level Latin. Perhaps I should change my siggy to Latin or French as well…

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Anyanka said

Boleyn said

It could well be that this bricklayer spent a lot of time in church and picked up the latin language. It’s not an easy language to conquer, but I can speak it after a fashion. Well my signiture is Latin as you probably know.. I have a feeling that, you, Sharon, Bob and Anyanka know what it means.

Thanks for bringing back 5 years of ‘O’Level Latin. Perhaps I should change my siggy to Latin or French as well…

I never did Latin at School, but my cousin did. He hated it too. Like I said I can speak it after a fashion, but have trouble sometimes with translating it. Personally I think it’s a beautiful language, but I’m perhaps on my own with that thought.
LOL Thinking about my cousin, I can remember once whe I was about 12/13 he came to stay for a week, I made him do my school homework, as I couldn’t be bothered, and that was the only week in the whole of my school years I got straight A+’s. I hoping he will come and visit soon, as he’s in good old blighty at the moment, he doesn’t spend much time here now, as he’s always on the move doing things. He lives mostly in Thailand (Bangkok) lucky sod. It will be good to catch up all the years we’ve missed, although it doesn’t seem like we’ve missed anything if that makes sence, we chat away nineteen to the dozen as if we’ve never been apart. He’s the baby of the family, but only by a week. He’s a week younger than me.

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