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Jaquetta of Luxemburg - a burial place?
May 11, 2015
9:21 pm
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does anyone have any views/opinions on either where Jaquetta of Luxemburg – once the senior aristocratic woman in England, and subsequently mother of Elizabeth Woodville, wife of Edward IV – is buried, or why we don’t know where she’s buried?

she died in 1472, Edward IV was back on the throne, Elizabeth had given him one (two?) sons and several daughters, the Yorkists were utterly triumphant – so Jaquetta must have recieved a decent funeral and tomb at some senior religious location, and i assume that at least Elizabeth must have attended her funeral, but possibly Edward IV himself and the Elder daughters.. so why nothing in either the accounts of the religious houses or in the royal accounts?

mystified…

May 12, 2015
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A very good question indeed Bob. It’s very strange indeed that Jaquetta doesn’t seem to have any sort of memorial at all to her, it’s almost as if she never existed.
Is it possible that her body was returned to Luxemburg? but if so why wasn’t some sort of memorial set up in Grafton church considering that Grafton was primarly her home after her marriage to Richard Woodville?
It’s a bit of a stab in the dark, long shot off the latch idea here, but when R3 took the throne, and declared the marriage between E4 and EW null and void, he also ordered that every memorial concerning Jaquetta being referred to as the Queen mum was to be destroyed? And this was done so completely that she will never be found.
If you think about it the only reason we know about the Titus Regulus document is because just one copy escaped H7’s dragnet.
As for EW attending her mother’s funeral, wouldn’t it be against royal protocol for her to go? She may well have gone and paid her last respects, after her mothers funeral however.

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May 12, 2015
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Boleyn said
but when R3 took the throne, and declared the marriage between E4 and EW null and void, he also ordered that every memorial concerning Jaquetta being referred to as the Queen mum was to be destroyed? And this was done so completely that she will never be found…

pretty unlikely i would suggest, if RIII had Henry VI moved from Chertsey to Westminster, almost certainly had the Clarence Tomb at Tewkesbury built, started to build a chapel at Towton, and didn’t have Margaret Beaufort executed, it seems pretty unlikey that he’d have Jaquettas’ tomb destroyed and all records of it expunged out of spite… from what i can see he didn’t have much to do with her, he wasn’t at court much before Warwicks rebellions, and she died not long after Edward IV got his throne back.

there’s also the small matter of the fact that no one mentioned any of this just two years later when Henry VII took the throne, and critically Elizabeth Woodville came back into favour (ish..), and Elizabeth of York became Queen.

possible i suppose, but unlikely/unfeesable in the extreme.

May 18, 2015
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Thank you Bob.
It just seems so sad that a woman who founded, the dynasty of the York queens, (her daughter and Grandaughter, not to mention Lady Jane Grey, Mary and Elizabeth) as well as uniting Scotland and England under one umbrella via her great grandaughter Margaret, hasn’t got a tomb or any form of memorial to her memory.
Is there anything at all to suggest that her body was returned to her native Luxemburg after her death? If not is there any form of memorial to her in Luxemburg?
Her Husband Richard, we know was executed at Kenilworth, so I am guessing that he was buried in one of the churches there, no matter that he was beheaded as a traitor, he would have been given the dignity of a christain burial.
There must be some record somewhere in the church records of the time (which granted were not always accurately kept) of where Richard was buried. This does seem the only possibility that I can really think of in my opinion, that Jaquetta was buried with Richard.
Of course when Henry 8th came along with his bulldozer and flattened all the churches naturally all trace of their tomb would have been lost. It may well be that the church grounds that once stood there now have a Burger King or some trendy wine bar stood on their tomb, but until we find some concrete (Pardon the pun) evidence to back this up we are simply p***ing in the wind.

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