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June 3, 2013
5:43 pm
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Lady Clare,
May i first say,
your web site, which i have read for quite some time now, is excellent..

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For us, on the internet, we the children of the mass media revolution
the most frustrating thing with regard to Henry & Anne is
the complete lack of actual media footage,
we can neither see nor hear from them, the truth..
no interviews no photographs no nothing….

we can hear Edison speak,
we can hear Churchill explain
we can see a ship raised from an ocean
we can even see a man on the moon

but nothing prior to the 20th century can be realistically viewed
as anything other than “probably true”,

written by the victor we are subject to their slant
which is so frustrating in this modern world of instant everything,

today we can see the royals in all their glory,
and sometimes in all their shame,

imagine if we could sit and watch Henry explain in his own words
why he did what he did…

the thrill of watching film footage of him jousting,
pronouncing cavorting and rockin & rollin’ around his kingdom

and Anne,
her interview the night before her execution beamed live to the world on satellite tv..
and prior to that, played out in the tabloids of britain,

the romance the scandal the “secret trysts” of King Hal’ and his new lover
as they’re “papped” riding off to a holiday cottage hidden in the countryside…

Anne in a “kiss and tell” just before her arrest ..etc etc

oh if only hey !!

July 20, 2013
1:46 am
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That would be an awesome thing to see, if it happened in our day and age. If the beheading happened now and Henry’s accusation were live, i think most of us would know they would be unjust and we would see right through them. With today’s freedom if speech (if that is in place in your suggestions) I don’t think we would let him do something as false and selfish as Henry wanted to get rid of Anne.

You can imagine the scandal in OK magazine. Or Jerry springer. ( stupid i know but hey, thats where the dirt seems to be televised.)

But even then, i’m sure Henry would still insist on a private court case. His too vain and proud to let all know his dirty laundry. If Anne done a kiss and tell, i would certainly watch or read about it.

Be an interesting twist for a book now. lol. I don’t think i would have the energy to right that type of novel.

FATE TELLS MY STORY.

July 20, 2013
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I’d venture Henry’s fear that Anne would “kiss & tell” was one of the reasons why he wanted her dead as opposed to exiled; a vain man like Henry wouldn’t want people knowing of his sexual failings.

July 28, 2013
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Princess Diana talked with Martin Bashir……

-"Trust in those who offer you service, and in the end my maidens, you will find yourselves in the ranks of those who have been deceived" - Archduchess Margaret of Austria.

October 7, 2013
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This is brilliant. Would you imagine the public opinion having weight on the outcome? I would definetly sign a petition called “Free Anne Boleyn: Tell Henry VIII to drop the case against Anne Boleyn” and all the human rights activists doing something about it. The TT on twitter, the shares on FB, the media bashing him, imagine if something like this could have saved her life.

October 7, 2013
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Actually Mad Twinkle if memory serves, there has been something like this proposed not to long ago. In short exonating Anne and those who died with her. Unfortunatly it failed so, although we all believe in her innocence we aren’t enough to sway the powers that be to overturn the travesty of Justice that claimed the lives of Anne and 5 innocent men.
To be honest if Anne had been set free I doubt she would have lived long enough to enjoy her freedom. The idea origially before Henry chopped her up was, to give up all rights to the throne, including those of Elizabeth’s and go abroad somewhere. If Anne had done just that Henry would have waited perhaps six months and then sent his assasins to kill both Anne and Elizabeth, and then simply put about that she and Elizabeth had died as a result of some tersian fever. That’s purely my opinon mind you not to be taken sancrosanct.
I rather believe that Anne would have known that if she had lived her life and Elizabeth’s would forever be in danger. So did the only thing she could do, sacrificed herself to save Elizabeth’s life.

Semper Fidelis, quod sum quod

October 9, 2013
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I don’t think public or political opinion would sway Henry at all. Although quite a few historians dispute the idea that Henry’s England was the realm of a Stalinesque dictator, I think that there was only the semblance/facade of counsel (even from his courtiers, let alone MPs and the public…and Henry completely ignored this when it suited him, anyway).

October 9, 2013
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SteveJ said

I don’t think public or political opinion would sway Henry at all. Although quite a few historians dispute the idea that Henry’s England was the realm of a Stalinesque dictator, I think that there was only the semblance/facade of counsel (even from his courtiers, let alone MPs and the public…and Henry completely ignored this when it suited him, anyway).

Yep I agree there Steve. Once Henry had made up his mind that Anne was guilty (even though he and Cromwell had cooked the whole thing up) Anne was dead. They say if you tell a lie often enough you end up believing it yourself, such was the case with Henry concerning Anne.
Although to give the lard bucket a nano credit. I think he must have still been in a quandary over K.P as he did listen to her when she was pleading for her life, when she had found out that Lard arse had issued an arrest warrant for her. She chose her moment to go and talk to him wisely, if she had left it just a few more hours, before going to him she would have been banging her head against a brick wall. She played with fire but got singed, not burned. What I don’t get is why Lard Arse allowed Risley? to come for the Queen the next day? Surely if they were perfect freinds again, as he stated he would withdraw the warrant? Was it perhaps his way of warning K.P to make sure she kept her mouth shut in the future?

Semper Fidelis, quod sum quod

October 9, 2013
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Boleyn said

What I don’t get is why Lard Arse allowed Risley? to come for the Queen the next day? Surely if they were perfect freinds again, as he stated he would withdraw the warrant? Was it perhaps his way of warning K.P to make sure she kept her mouth shut in the future?

Like many dictators, he practised a ‘divide and rule’ strategy – subtly encouraging his underlings to be in competition with each other – and he rather enjoyed keeping people on their toes, sending them a message by allowing these dramas to be acted out. The message was: “You may plot, scheme and act to your advantage but never forget that I hold your lives & livelihoods in my hands.” Cranmer’s near-downfall was similar to the KP incident.

October 9, 2013
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SteveJ said

Boleyn said

What I don’t get is why Lard Arse allowed Risley? to come for the Queen the next day? Surely if they were perfect freinds again, as he stated he would withdraw the warrant? Was it perhaps his way of warning K.P to make sure she kept her mouth shut in the future?

Like many dictators, he practised a ‘divide and rule’ strategy – subtly encouraging his underlings to be in competition with each other – and he rather enjoyed keeping people on their toes, sending them a message by allowing these dramas to be acted out. The message was: “You may plot, scheme and act to your advantage but never forget that I hold your lives & livelihoods in my hands.” Cranmer’s near-downfall was similar to the KP incident.

Never looked at that way Steve, and yeah you are right. The lackeys all arguing the toss and plotting against each other, must have given him a great deal of pleasure. Almost like saying well lets see just how much the Seymours or the Howards are prepared to pay for my favour etc.
With Cranmer situation it was very much the same thing with him as it was with K.P. Cranmer actually got a little too big for his boots. Cranmer like K.P had the good sence to back off.

Semper Fidelis, quod sum quod

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