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Why do you love Anne Boleyn?
December 21, 2009
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I have been interested in Anne since I studied the tudors subject at school, (im 35 now) Ive always felt a strange connection to her, I have no idea why, and have read many books on her and strive to find more and more info on her. This year for our anniversary my husband took me to london to Hampton Court Palace and to Hever Castle (Hever is amazing and brought me to tears many times just from the feeling in the place it is stunning) I want to go to The Tower Of London next year and other castles she may have \’touched\’. Im totally hooked on the Tudors series and all the films that depict her time, even if they are not totally acurate.

The very strange thing is that I feel extremely \’proud\’ of Anne Boleyn, what she achieved and how she went about it. She seemed to be quite \’hot headed\’ which is very like myself but then who wouldnt have been if they were under so much pressure to give Henry a son. She did in the end through Henry, change the course of England forever, she also left the most amazing legacy… her daughter.

This is going to sound very strange but there is not a day that goes by when I dont think about her, her situation and how it could have all been so different for her, but then again if it hadnt all turned out the way it did we wouldnt have had Elizabeth Ist as our greatest ever monarch.

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December 23, 2009
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Hi Emma,
I don\’t think your comments sound strange to any of us, we all think about her on a daily basis!

I also feel proud of Anne, she was so ahead of her time and was the only one of Henry\’s wives who really stood up to Henry and fought her corner. I actually think also that she was his true love, the only woman he felt real passion and love for. He was a lustful man but I think he felt true love for Anne. What do you think?

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December 29, 2009
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I believe that too, its been said in many books etc that he was in love with Katherine Howard, but I believe that was a man in a mid life crisis in 'lust' with a pretty teenager!

She was the love of his life but he was a selfish man and wanted a son more that anything else in the world, when she didnt 'produce' and heir, he fell out of love with her or those around him 'made' him fall out of love with her.  I really believe that If she had produced a son she would have been the great love of his life and he would have been with her till his death. (thats what I think anyway)

I dont believe he really loved Jane Seymore, she only became his great love … 'after' she had a son.  There doesnt seem to be so much passion or great  love 'before' she had Edward.

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January 2, 2010
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I agree with you, Emma, about Henry and Catherine Howard. I think that by the time he married Anne of Cleves, Henry was suffering from impotence and so needed a young, sexually attractive girl to help him with his \”problem\”. He may have fallen head over heels in \”love\” with her but this was more based on lust and was not a meeting of minds like he had had with Anne Boleyn or even Catherine of Aragon.

Yes, he treated Jane Seymour pretty badly when she was alive and I think his love for her and the devastation he felt after her death was more to do with the fact that a wife had finally given him a son and him being grateful for that, rather than passion or love. Jane's death made him go all nostalgic and put her on a kind of pedestal.

I believe that Henry loved Catherine of Aragon but that this love wore thin when he realised that she just couldn't do her \”job\” properly and a similar thing happened with Anne. Henry could somehow go from love to hate or indifference pretty quickly when people didn't live up to his expectations, just look at Thomas More, who had been close friends with Henry for years, or Cromwell.

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January 5, 2010
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For me my interest just happened, i had always love history but mainly 20th Centuary (espeicaly the TITANIC) but i wanted to expand my interest in history, and i knew a little about The Tudors before hand, so  i bought a small book simply named 'The six wives of Henry VIII.' After reading the about all of the wives, Anne's personality and her story realy appealed to me. Before long i was buying my first Anne biography which was by Joanna Denny. Soon afterwards, Showtimes 'The Tudors'  series was broadcasted over here in the UK. I loved it and i was gobsmaked by Natalie Dormers portrail of Anne, and i enjoyed Jonathan Ryhs Myeres as Henry. The Book collection grew and as did my interest, Anne was my new TITANIC (if that makes sense)

And its scary but i too feel 'proud' of Anne, i'm glad i'm not the only one!!!

January 8, 2010
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Hi Jonny,

We're like a little support group here, it's the one place you can talk about Anne without people's eyes glazing over or people thinking you're weird!

I think \”The Tudors\” has really helped Anne's cause. I know that it's not accurate and Anne is still portrayed in a less than nice light but it has got people interested in her story and people are questioning what happened to her and why she was executed. I'm sure that sales of Anne Boleyn biographies have shot up and that's brilliant news.

I read the Joanna Denny biography first but now I hardly use that, the Eric Ives ones is my Anne \”Bible\”. Which Six Wives book did you read, there are quite a few of them. Was it the Starkey one?

Anyway, welcome, Jonny!

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January 8, 2010
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I`m fascinated by this period of history, full stop. I love Henry and all his wives, ministers, dukes and hangers-on etc. Anne Boleyn obviously sticks out, she really shook the country up and she still (after so many centuries) still captivates people. Its` almost as though her famed charisma reaches down through the centuries and hold people in her grasp.

Anne wasn`t beautiful, but she had great “sex appeal”, she wasn`t a likeable person, but she had “something”. Shes` an enigma, and shes` elusive. I love all those contradictory feelings she arouses and fact that trying to pin her down is like grasping at smoke.

I don`t “relate” to her at all, but for some reason that adds to the appeal. I think Thomas Wyatt said it best:

\”And wild for to hold, though I seem tame\”

Be daly prove you shalle me fynde,nTo be to you bothe lovyng and kynde,

January 8, 2010
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Claire said:

Hi Jonny,

We're like a little support group here, it's the one place you can talk about Anne without people's eyes glazing over or people thinking you're weird!

I think “The Tudors” has really helped Anne's cause. I know that it's not accurate and Anne is still portrayed in a less than nice light but it has got people interested in her story and people are questioning what happened to her and why she was executed. I'm sure that sales of Anne Boleyn biographies have shot up and that's brilliant news.

I read the Joanna Denny biography first but now I hardly use that, the Eric Ives ones is my Anne “Bible”. Which Six Wives book did you read, there are quite a few of them. Was it the Starkey one?

Anyway, welcome, Jonny!

Yes Eric Ives biography is amazing

The six wives book was realy a very small book of about 40 pages, i saw it at fountains abbey and just picked it up.

I havn't read any Starkey books, if i am honest i am put off, because i saw Starkey on an episode of question time and found him a tiny bit arogant, but i know he is a excellent historian, i saw a tiny bit of his series on Channel 4, but i missed most of it as i was in Kenya and Tanzania, is it worth me buying it on DVD?

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January 8, 2010
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Starkey is pompous and arrogant, but he has every reason to be! Hes` a brilliant historian, with a brilliant mind. I wouldn`t want to be stuck in a lift with him, though.

Be daly prove you shalle me fynde,nTo be to you bothe lovyng and kynde,

January 8, 2010
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LOL, it was actualy his way of talking about the Labour party that annoyed me, he was unnecessarly rude, but i agree he is a brilliant historian, i must get round to reading one of his books.

January 9, 2010
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jonnye29 said:

LOL, it was actualy his way of talking about the Labour party that annoyed me, he was unnecessarly rude, but i agree he is a brilliant historian, i must get round to reading one of his books.


Yeah, I saw Starkey on Question Time and he ranks up there with Nick Griffin as the most entertaining pannellists. Starkey comes from a very working class background himself, and like a lot of people in the same situation, as soon as he made something of himself he became very Thatcherite. As I said, I`d never want to get stck in a lift, or anywhere else, with him!

EDIT: My sincerest apologies for sullying this forum by mentioning the name Nick Griffin.

Be daly prove you shalle me fynde,nTo be to you bothe lovyng and kynde,

January 9, 2010
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It's ok, we forgive you

January 10, 2010
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For me my interest in Anne ( and all things Tudor) began when I was ten and visited the Tower of London and listening to Anne's story (along with Catherine Howards and Lady Jane Greys) just completely captivated me!  Its hard to pinpoint exactly what it is about Anne above other Tudor personalities that keeps drawing me back – perhaps its the sense of mystery that surrounds her, that elusive quality that leads people to either hate her or love her.  She certainly provoked in people of the time those qualities!  I think also that she was unusually ambitious and single-minded for a woman of the time – she knew what she wanted and wasn't afraid to go out and get it!

February 23, 2010
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Hello everyone! I am new to this site! I admire Anne Boleyn so much. She was a great reformer and I believe she never got a chance to achieve her full potential. i have been fascinated with her since I was younger and found out that my family originated from England. I truly believe the King loved her and only did what his advisers told him to do. There was so much back stabbing and wrong doing for personal gain back then she just fell victim of those people. After researching alot on this topic I do not believe she committed the crimes she was accused of and fully believe she loved her brother as a brother nothing else. I think the only thing she was not completely honest about was her virginity. I love the scene in the Tudors series when Thomas Cromwell comes to tell Sir Thomas Wyatt that Anne was going to die and that he was going to be set free and as Cromwell walk out he says ” But I'm the only one who is guilty!” It was just amazing! I believe those who confessed were forced into doing so by torch-er and those who were not torchered did so out of spite against her Like Lady . I look forward to more discussions and I'm hoping to read some of these books about her and also King Henry VIII. Thanks so much for allowing me to express my opinion! AnnesAdmirer!Wink

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February 28, 2010
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Anne changed history. Without her it is not clear whether Henry VIII would have broken with the Pope and established the Church of England. Without her also there would never have been an Elizabeth I. Of course you can argue that Henry VIII would have found another woman and broken with the Church anyway, but no one can know for sure, or whether it would have lasted. These two events were so important for English history and subsequently world history, and establishes Anne as one of the most influential women of all time.

I believe the book The Other Boleyn Girl is unfair to Anne, it is like she is executed twice, first time for real, the second time in popular history because of this book. However, I prefer to dwell on the (positive) influence that she had on history and not the unfair things done or said.

March 1, 2010
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I love Anne because she was so strong at a time in history when women were supposed to be silent and meek, but lovely to look at.  And have a zillion babies.  As far as I can tell, she was manipulated by the men in her life, but she used that to her advantage.  The men wanted her to give in to Henry, and she did.  But on her terms, not theirs.  I love that about her.   She made Henry crazy, and I love that about her, too.  The fact that he murdered her because she was the woman she was, and was never going to change, simply adds to the mystery of Anne.  That's why she captured my heart. 

March 14, 2010
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gwenne said:

  I believe were she be alive today, she would be either the president of her own international multi-billion dollar corporation or the prime minister of her country.


I see her more as a star on Broadway or West End, or an olympic figure skater.

When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.

March 20, 2010
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LOL I hate to say it but I could envision Anne being on one of those reality shows. Real Housewives of…. She would have been a great contestant on Survivor (though her fate shows she might not have won!)

NO matter what I am leaning towards a reality show for her!

XO-Gina

March 22, 2010
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I just fell in love with annes story when the tv drama henry VIII with ray winstone and helena bonham carter was released and ever since have had a love of her x I have now turned my obssesion to the tudors with jonathan rhys meyers and natalie dormer who plays her soooo well x

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I agree with Beet about TOBG. Although many people have come to be fans by reading The Other Boleyn Girl, I have so many people ask me why I like Anne when she was such a bit**. I really hate the way that Mary is portrayed as the goodie and Anne as the baddie. Whereas, The Tudors, even with its faults, portrays Anne in a much better way. We can see her flaws and her quick temper but admire her wit, intelligence and magnetism.

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