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Is Anne Boleyn buried at Salle Church
April 14, 2011
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Sophie1536
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Everyone must have read about the folklore stories that Anne is buried in Salle Church in Norfolk but what's everyone's views on this?

We know the Boleyn's were around the village of Salle around 1318 because this was the family seat in Medieval times but what about Salle being the final resting place of Anne Boleyn?

I really don't know myself and it's something that's always puzzled me, I know that Anne's remains were supposedly found in the church at the Tower but know one knows 100% for sure if it was Anne.

I would like to think that Anne is resting with her family in Norfolk 🙂

Has anyone on the forum ever been to Salle church and had any reason to think that Anne is there?

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April 14, 2011
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I've heard that one too, I also heard that her remains were smuggled out of the Tower and buried at Blickling church and/or Hever church. It gets confusing, especially if the place in question has a connection to the Boleyn family!  I'm not even sure if Salle is the church at Blickling or it's a completely different place!!!

It would be nice to think of Anne resting with some of her ancestors in a country church but I'm pretty sure she's still in the chapel in the Tower Frown  I think this is just one of those myths that have sprung up over time, maybe invented by someone who was sympathetic to Anne, but not really anything more.  It's a great 'what if' question though and makes for a rather spooky story.  And who doesn't love those?!!!!

But if someone has been to Salle, then I'd love to know more about the story too  Laugh

April 14, 2011
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I really wish we could just dna test the remains in the Tower so we'd know for sure. I know it's unlikely but it would be nice.

April 15, 2011
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I read an article the other day about this legend over on the 'On the Tudor Trail' website.  I left a post on there, so I thought I would copy it over to this post also ……….

I have never heard of this legend before which is why I found it so interesting, I have always read that Anne was buried in St Peter ad Vincula. I really like the idea of Anne’s friends rallying around to give her a proper and dignified burial that was due to her. I can imagine, if the legend is to be believed, that the service and burial would have been a really sad affair and that all present would have truly mourned Anne’s death. Again, if the legend is to be believed, can you imagine the risk that Anne’s friends & family were putting themselves in by moving Anne’s body, just think if they had got caught what would have happened to them. Would they too have been taken to the block?

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April 15, 2011
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Blickling Hall is less than 8 miles from Salle so, given the family connections, it would not seem out of place. The idea is noted in the book “Notes and Queries” (1858) by B. B. Wiffen, who gives Crispin's account written two weeks after Anne's death. The Norfolk legend is contained in the book “Life of Anne Boleyn” (1842) by Agnes Strickland and Anne's body being being buried in secret is also stated in Francis Lancelot's “The Queens of England” (1858).

Perhaps the best guide could be Thomas Wyatt who said: “God provided for her corpse sacred burial, even in a place as it were consecrate to innocence”. This statement is contained in Stickland's book “Lives of the Queens of England” (1852).  

So you take your choice, but I guess we will never really know.

April 15, 2011
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I can't imagine how difficult it would be to get access to the Tower, steal a body, and smuggle it out without anyone seeing. The Chapel is nowhere near the entrance to the Tower and can be seen from many of the turret windows.  Fair enough Guards could have been bribed, but the more people who know the greater the risk becomes.  I believe that Thomas Boleyn was more concerned with damage limitation at this time than he was with Anne's burial.

I do hope that Anne is still at The Tower of London. If not, then I've been going to the wrong place on 19th May! Surprised

April 15, 2011
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Wherever Anne is buried, I hope she is resting in peace. Having said that, I can only imagine the logistical nightmare of exhuming Anne's body, moving it from the Tower and then transporting it to Salle or wherever. I'm not sure if I can believe this plot possible, but it does add to the mystique of Anne's legacy.

I've been to the Tower's Chapel to pay my respects. I felt a great obligation to do so. Standing there in front of a plaque with Anne's name was enough for me. She may not lay with her family, but she lies with those, like her, who fell foul of a corrupt political system and paid the ultimate price. In some ways, they were her “brothers in arms.”

Does anyone know when this story first began? Thanks.

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April 15, 2011
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I haven't a clue when this story/rumour began but it is very intriguing, I suppose it will always come back to is it really Anne's body in the chapel?

I would actually like to know where in Salle church Anne is supposedly buried? This story floats around but I've NEVER read anymore than the story, I suppose though if it was true then the consequences of such knowledge would have been dangerous…..so many if's and buts!

It is a very interesting story/folklore/rumour Wink

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April 15, 2011
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Crispin's account of the removal of Anne's body at midnight to Salle was written two weeks after her execution. Crispin, “Lord of Minherve”, is regarded by many as a reliable and unbiased witness. Anne's resting place at Salle is said to be indicated by a plain black stone, without inscription. So far, so good, but as to the practicality of doing this, some doubt must remain, also, as remains were found in the Tower Chapel during excavations in the 19th century, one must ask how Anne's “Ladies” were able to not only remove and transport her body, but also replace it with another.

So, once again, one must make their choice on the evidence given. I know what the romantic in me would like to be true, but I fear the pragmatist in me prevails. 

April 16, 2011
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Just as an add on to my comment above, if such speculation was going around so soon after Anne's death, then I cannot believe that Henry wouldn't have had this investigated. Unless, of course, he had a heart and had covertly sanctioned Anne's removal himself?

Just a thought!

April 16, 2011
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Whether the remains of Anne Boleyn really do rest in the Chapel of St Peters ad Vincula or whether they are elsewhere, is something we will never know with certainty. But her memorial plaque is there. And, in a sense, perhaps that is all we really need to know. When we pay our respects at the Tower, therefore, it is still well and good.

April 16, 2011
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Chrystinamarie123 said:

I really wish we could just dna test the remains in the Tower so we'd know for sure. I know it's unlikely but it would be nice.


I don't.

 

This is a case of let the dead rest in peace rather than a case of re-uniting  a family like WWI and WWII servicemen. Added to that getting good DNA from a skeleton in hard enough. Maybe in the future it may be easier, science takes big leaps at times.

 

As long as we have a place to remember some-one,  does it matter if it's their grave or a memorial? The fact we are able to remember them and give thanks for thier life should, IMHO, be enough.

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May 7, 2011
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I went to Salle Church last June and walked all around it but couldn't even locate the tomb of her grandparents, the place is very dilapidated; we even asked several locals walking their dog but they couldn't locate the grandparents' grave, let alone Anne's; I'm going back there in July to see Blickling so am going to stop off at Salle Church again, but I don't hold out much hope

March 31, 2012
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Anne’s remains are buried in St. Peter ad vincula, tower of London. She’s under the floor there and will be found one day perhaps. We could say that the cart that Thomas W used rolled back to where it came from, and Anne’s final resting place is the same as her friends. Anne’s peace is there.Wink

March 31, 2012
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It’s possible. If the body found was not hers but Jane Rochford or Katherine Howard, as there was no remains for Katherine Howard, maybe the coroner made a mistake and it was Anne’s remains missing. Instead of dissolved in quick lime, perhaps taken away and buried elsewhere?

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March 31, 2012
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juliane said

Anne’s remains are buried in St. Peter ad vincula, tower of London. She’s under the floor there and will be found one day perhaps. We could say that the cart that Thomas W used rolled back to where it came from, and Anne’s final resting place is the same as her friends. Anne’s peace is there.Wink

Her remains were supposedly exhumed in the 1800’s.

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March 31, 2012
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Anne’s there in St. Pete’s. Lol no worries, she’ll be unearthed one day if people start digging. She’s just further down in the floor, after one more skeleton.Laugh

March 31, 2012
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juliane said

Anne’s there in St. Pete’s. Lol no worries, she’ll be unearthed one day if people start digging. She’s just further down in the floor, after one more skeleton.Laugh

How do you know that?

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March 31, 2012
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There are a lot of rumours concerning the actual resting place of Anne, Perhaps the lack of a proper coffin for Anne was meant to be and not just an over sight by Kingston. Putting Anne’s remains in an old Aroow chest would be easier to get past any guards that were about, where as a coffin couldn’t easily be explained, especially as the guard would have known that an execution had taken place that day. They would simply put 2 and 2 together and make Anne’s body, and the people involved in trying to get her body away would be in the Tower quicker than they could say Damn.
Fact is a lot of bodies were just chucked in the vault without grace or gravy so who knows who is down there. The Victorians did renovated the Chapel, and I believe they did say they found 2 coffins down there, but again that could have been 2 of many and they just picked on KH. and AB because of the fact they were Queens famous, for getting their heads lopped off. I’d like to think she’s down there, but I actually think if she was going to buried somewhere secret it would be in the grounds at Hever.

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April 1, 2012
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She isn’t at Hever though someone saw her this year standing in one of the stairways. Her remains are in St. Peter’s. Dig, and she’ll be found. In a not so shallow grave. And her pretty tile is there, and her roses are sent to her every year… She is happy to be associated with that peaceful little chapel and that is where her people find her, always.

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