Anyanka said

Boleyn said

There was probably a reason for her ruthlessness. There were also rumours kicking around that Edward was not even Henry’s son anyway?

Ye olde magick sperm theory..William Wallace? Henry Darnley? Henry VIII? Old Uncle Tom Cobbley?? Mr Blobby? Tinky Winky??? SWMNBN is missing a whole load of potential fathers here..

Personaly I’m gong for Britney Spears as being Edward’s father…

I dare say S.W.M.N.B.N will get around to them sooner or later. I’m surprized she hasn’t the possible father as being Zaphod Beaglebox (Hitchhikers guide to the universe) or Batman, Superman The invisible man or even the Pope why not she’s capable of finding a way to write something like that.

I’ve read an advance copy of the next PG novel, and apparently Edward is traumatised when he discovers that he’s his own dad. On a brighter note, it’ll make his shopping for Father’s Day a lot easier.

Olga said

Well considering poor old Henry spent most of the year little Edward was conceived snoozing it’s not surprising they thought someone else knocked her up.

I thought disputing paternity and legitimacy was a bit of a hobby back then, you know, like attending executions.

I thought so too. If nothing else works, claim bastardry. Let them try to straighten that out!

I’m actually really enjoying this series (though I have to say i believe PG’s cousins war is her best series)

The book isn’t accurate at all so I had no high expectations there..but I’m just enjoying this as a piece of entertainment

I think the casting is good..Rebecca Ferguson is a beautiful Elizabeth Woodville and Max Irons a charming young Edward. Of course there is the ultimate period drama villain James Frain playing Warwick and an equally dastardly George, Duke of Clarence. Then there is my favourite Jaquetta, I don’t know the name of the actress but I think she is fabulous.

Of course it is very irritating to think many people will take most of this as fact rather than consulting works by real historians and there are some scenes that may be like nails on a chalkboard to those who are knowledgeable and passionate about the real Wars of the Roses

Though I have to admit..Im a fan

Yes well I just sobbed through the end of episode 6.

I don’t like the pacing much either, I am assuming this is an eight episode series so there’s not much time to go, and if it follows the book Edward is going to die soon. I suppose it’s going to be Kingmaker’s Daughter next, but then that would only be one more season.
If HBO had made it there would have been a thousand times more nudity and graphic sex scenes, I don’t know if it would have necessarily been better. Game of Thrones has two massive geeks producing it, and George R.R. Martin heavily involved, which is why I think it is better quality than most of their other stuff. But I have serious issues with their overdone sex and violence.

I am very disappointed with this – The Wars of the Roses is a fascinating period in English history, just crying out for a good, fact-based drama to get the viewing public interested – but PG’s book and this version is not the way to do it. PG seems obsessed with witchcraft and incest and these come to dominate her characterisation. I wish she would not describe herself as a ‘historian’. She is a writer with an ability to hook a readership with her fiction – but historian she is not. Even her so-called documentary about the ‘real’ people behind her stories is riddled with errors.

Her next book (The White Princess) is about Elizabeth of York and her incestuous affair with her uncle…………..

Jasmine said

I am very disappointed with this – The Wars of the Roses is a fascinating period in English history, just crying out for a good, fact-based drama to get the viewing public interested – but PG’s book and this version is not the way to do it. PG seems obsessed with witchcraft and incest and these come to dominate her characterisation. I wish she would not describe herself as a ‘historian’. She is a writer with an ability to hook a readership with her fiction – but historian she is not. Even her so-called documentary about the ‘real’ people behind her stories is riddled with errors.

Her next book (The White Princess) is about Elizabeth of York and her incestuous affair with her uncle…………..

I agree Jasmine S.W.M.N.B.N has no right to call herself a bona fide historian. She may have all the credentials but she isn’t a historian. In my opinion she is a writer of historical or hysterical fantasy novels. I would love her to tell me where she sourced her fact of Witchcraft etc, in fact better still I would love to put her in the same room as my brother in law, as he is a Pagan priest.
There are so many holes in her stories that you could strain cabbage with them.

Thank you Anyanka. I know the ancient egyptian also used lead as a cosmetic, I’m not too sure but I believe they used to put drops of it in their eyes to make them shine. Lead was also used as a sweetener I think.
The Victorian woman used to soak fly papers which contained Arsenic, the liquid that they got from the fly papers they used as a face wash to keep their skin soft. Weird or what.

In last night’s episode: the makers got ’round the problem of depicting buff King Edward in his later & more decadent years by…stuffing a pillow up his tunic. I kid you not. I assumed he was pregnant.

Maybe…it was the pillow Edward used to smother Henry VI(!)
*cue dramatic music*