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4:34 am
February 16, 2009
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Although I really enjoy watching \”The Tudors\”, sometimes the historical inaccuracies do get on my nerves.
What inaccuracies have you noticed? By the way, if it is in regard to Season 3 then please state that your post may contain spoilers because Season 3 has not been aired in Europe.
Debunking the myths about Anne Boleyn
2:52 pm
June 27, 2009
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one inaccuracy thats always bothered me is how they heavily imply that anne slept w/ thomas wyatt- which there is NO proof for her doing. she truly loved henry percy(who doesnt even appear in the tudors), but theres no proof for her even sleeping with him…& in my opinion she probably didn't.
Anne Boleyn: Laetissima
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2:44 am
February 16, 2009
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I'd noticed that Henry Percy is missing too yet in reality he was the one who nearly married her, until his father and Wolsey stepped in, and he was on the \”jury\” at her trial and had to find her guilty. After she was found guilty and sentenced, Percy is said to have collapsed. Isn't Wyatt seen watching her execution from a hiding place? Yet he was imprisoned in the Bell Tower at the time.
I agree with you, there is absolutely no evidence that Anne slept with any man before Henry and if there had been Henry would have used this against her at her trial. Allegations of a relationship with Wyatt were just propoganda spread around in the 1550s and later because Wyatt was known to have been arrested along with the other men. Wyatt was released and went on to work for the crown so I can't see there being any truth in it at all.
Debunking the myths about Anne Boleyn
4:13 am
June 24, 2009
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Wouldn't Thomas Wyatt have been able to see Anne's execution from the Bell Tower or from the 'leads' outside? I think he could have got a view of Tower Green from there. Also, what is never considered is the fact that Anne's lodgings at the time were in the Lieutenants House (now called the Queen's House) which directly abuts onto the Bell Tower. It was common practice for the Lieutenant to entertain distinguished guests at dinner – and so we are presented with the possibility that Thomas and Anne (old friends if not sweethearts perhaps) could actually have passed many hours together while imprisoned. There are some striking similarities in Anne's poetry and his during these final days.
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6:59 am
June 30, 2009
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I didnt like the fact that they made no mention of Marys (Annes sister) children, even their affair was on screen for only a few seconds. With all the debates about is her children were Henrys you thought they might have brought it up
7:50 am
February 16, 2009
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Sarah, I did read in one of the Anne Boleyn biographies that it would have been impossible for Wyatt to have seen the execution but I can't remember where I read it! I read that too about Anne and Wyatt possiblt spending time together while imprisoned but I'm not sure whether it actually did happen.
Gemma, you're right about Mary Boleyn, they did get rid of her pretty quickly didn't they?!
Debunking the myths about Anne Boleyn
10:19 am
August 12, 2009
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I'm still irritated by the show combining Henry VIII's sisters, and even more so if it truly was because they thought 2 characters named Mary would be too confusing for our little minds to keep straight. After all, they obviously weren't worried about us mixing up all those characters named Thomas.
And it's trivial, I know, but I was also bugged by how many of the women wore their hair down. Wouldn't that have been considered indecent? There were some French hoods (notably Anne's ladies in waiting), but Anne even went to her death with no covering on her hair at all until one of her ladies put that white coif over her hair.
"Don't knock at death's door.
Ring the bell and run. He hates that."
6:56 pm
July 28, 2009
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strangely i love the tudors despite its inaccuracies but I like it just for what it is… a show. I make a game out of finding all the things wrong and anyone watching it with me is probably sitting there like \”SHUT UP\” Several main things bothered me… one being the clothing, though beautiful, many of the gowns and other costumes were completely inaccurate, i mean bare arms??? The hair bothered me too, mainly the fact that Henry was known for his red hair and the Tudor's henry had brown?? And really, all the girls wearing their hair down and uncovered?? Also has anyone noticed they left Natalie's eyes blue while she played Anne??? That is soooo wrong seeing that our lady was known for her dark, almost black eyes. Mary Boleyn's tiny part bothered me too, as well as the lack of backround into Henry Percy, which would explain to the audience why ms.Anne hated Wolsey so much. ok this may count as a spoiler but …..The way Cromwell was executed in the later seasons bothered me as well because the brutal way it was done actually happened to another poor soul…one of the Poles. ok so im going to stop venting, because honestly I didnt know so many things about the show bothered me…hahaha
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le plus heurex
7:05 pm
June 24, 2009
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Well, at least the king is called Henry!
7:10 pm
June 20, 2009
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I know what you mean.. But I still love the show. It's never claimed to be historically accurate, but it's great to watch. The clothes, albeit they are not totally of the time period, are gorgeous, and I want them soo bad.. LOL Henry's portrayl, well I think JRM shows it perfectly, although he looks nothing like him. And Charles brandon.. *sigh*
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9:17 am
February 16, 2009
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Hi Autumn,
I applaud the show for actually trying to be historical. They could have just done it as pure entertainment and ignored the real stories but they have used many facts that the general public wouldn't have known BUT the liberties they do take are quite annoying, especially to rhose sitting by me when I announce \”that didn't happen in real life\” – a bit like watching a movie based on a book which has taken liberties, \”well that didn't happen in the book\”!
Actually, Autumn, Cromwell's execution was awful and very brutal, not as bad as Margaret Pole's but it took a few attempts. Here is a bit from a post I nentioned it in:-
Thomas Cromwell – Another messy execution! Cromwell finally got his “come-uppance” when Henry VIII blamed him for the Anne of Cleves marriage fiasco and council members turned against him. Cromwell was arrested, kept alive until the King’s marriage to Anne of Cleves could be annulled, charged as a traitor and heretic by an Act of Attainder and then executed on 28th July 1540 at the Tower of London. He came to an awful end:-
“so paciently suffered the stroke of the axe, by a ragged Boocherly miser which very ungoodly perfourmed the Office” – Edward Hall, contemporary chronicler.
There is no real evidence that anyone paid the executioner to do a bad job but there rumours of this. The executioner was definitely incompetent and the first blow struck Cromwell's skull and a few blows were needed to end his life. Yuck!
So, some of the show is based on fact and yet other parts are rather annoying. It's a shame that it has been adversely affected by actors leaving the show too.
Debunking the myths about Anne Boleyn
9:35 am
February 16, 2009
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Forgot to say that although I think JRM is not right physically, I think he shows Henry's arrogance, paranoia, mood swings and total absorption with his self etc. really well.
I know what you mean about Charles Brandon – sighing along with you!
Debunking the myths about Anne Boleyn
1:07 pm
August 17, 2009
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I also found the his sister \”Margaret\” in the show is a bit of a mix between his two sisters Mary and Margaret. I mean none of the two were maried to the king of Portugal, were they?
1:08 pm
August 17, 2009
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Sorry about my earlier post, the point has already been pointed out…
10:06 pm
February 16, 2009
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That's ok, Lina, welcome to the forum, you're right it was the King of France not Portugal, don't know why they changed it!
Debunking the myths about Anne Boleyn
1:23 am
July 28, 2009
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i guess i should have been more clear, i guess what upset me about cromwell's death is how the showed portrayed this huge drama behind his execution and how his enemies got the executioner drunk and thats why it was so messy blah blah… i guess what bothered me was them adding storylines that arent confirmed to have happened, but hey they did that a few times in the show…on the topic of henry, besides looks, JRM did an amazing job, he played the moody, tyranical ruler to a T. 🙂
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le plus heurex
9:44 pm
October 14, 2009
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I love The Tudors too! But it is very historically innacurate. Was anyone else upset by how little Mary Boleyn was in it? I guess that's understandable, since she was a mistress-but he named a ship after her! Also why it seems like they combined the Boleyn's father with their uncle-did anyone else get that? I'm so addicted to the show dispite the innacuracies. Oh and can we PLEASE talk about how the actress who plays Anne (does a great job by the way) but why didn't they five her brown contacts?! That bothered me and why does Henry not gain weight?! UGH! lol
9:45 am
December 8, 2009
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`The Tudors` is my guilty pleasure, I love it and I know I shouldn`t! But all those beautiful people and all that drama… However, some of the inaccuracies are pretty wild. The show starts with Henry`s uncle being murdered in Urbino. Henry only had two uncles (Elizabeth of York`s two younger brothers, Edward V and Richard, Duke of York), and they both disappeared into the Tower of London never to be seen again. Sorry to any Ricardians posting here, but they were likely to have been murdered by Richard III.
And why did they have to kill of Henry Fitzroy as a child? That was so sad. And Wolsey`s big dramatic suicide scene. Beautifully done, but entirely fictional. Oh and, time travelling Thomas Tallis. On top of that, you`ve got the combo characters. Marygret (as people call the combined Mary/Margaret character) and Brandon seems to have been combined with Norfolk too.
Be daly prove you shalle me fynde,nTo be to you bothe lovyng and kynde,
12:18 pm
February 16, 2009
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Yes, why did they kill Henry Fitzroy off as a child? Perhaps it was help people understand Henry's obsession with having a male heir? Not sure!
The whole uncle murder thing was very odd and why did they make Brereton into a Jesuit priest assassin sent by the Pope to kill Anne Boleyn? I think scenes like these, plus Wolsey's suicide, are to make it more dramatic and exciting, but, really, can you get more exciting than the reign of Henry VIII??!!
Debunking the myths about Anne Boleyn
5:10 pm
December 8, 2009
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Oh I forgot about the assassin Brereton! Poor Brereton, he came off so badly in the show.
I can sort`ve understand why they changed Wosley`s death scenes. The real Wolsey died of complications following bouts of dysentry, and that`ll never look good on T.V!
Be daly prove you shalle me fynde,nTo be to you bothe lovyng and kynde,
